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jep
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The chicken soup item
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Mar 11 04:05 UTC 2002 |
This item is for discussing chicken soup.
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jep
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response 1 of 23:
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Mar 11 04:09 UTC 2002 |
Prelude: The author is going through a divorce, has separated from his
wife, and had never cooked anything in his life (aside from chili,
pancakes, and things cooked under direct supervision by someone who
knows how).
Today I purchased 4 pounds of chicken parts; pre-cut leg, thigh and
breast pieces. I recently bought a stock pot at K-Mart. I'm mystified
by the stock pot, at least by the strainer thing, but anyway.
I boiled my chicken parts for an hour or so, then separated out the
meat/bones from the broth, separated the edible chicken parts from the
bones (burning the bejasus out of my left index finger in the process),
and threw the meat back into the pot.
There's nothing else in that pot. I tossed in a bay leaf since I was
forever picking them out of anything Andrea cooked, but other than
water and chicken, there's nothing else. I won't add salt; Andrea
always put in too much. I haven't a clue as to what else to do to that
pot of what I hope will be reasonable chicken soup, except to boil it
for a while longer and stir it if it boils over.
It tastes not unlike chicken soup right now.
I have some frozen "vegetables for soup" which I should probably toss
in there, too. But maybe I won't. I want *chicken* soup, not
vegetable soup with chicken guest appearance.
Rice, that's it. I'll put some rice in there. I don't know whether to
cook the rice or just put it in. I've got maybe 8 cookbooks, and not
one of them says how to make chicken soup with rice.
Brand me a bonehead. I'm on the Internet. Several sources say at this
point (up until which I've done more or less fine, except the bay leaf
should have gone in from the start) to toss in a half-cup of rice and
boil the soup until it's tender. I'll bet I can do that. I wasn't
sure whether to cook it first, but I guess that's not necessary.
It canNOT be that easy to make good chicken soup. Probably tomorrow
I'll be hospitalized for chicken soup poisoning.
It's a weird time of day to be making chicken soup anyway, except I
could never do it starting at 6:30 when I get home from work. This way
I can have soup to warm up when I get home, assuming nothing terrible
happens such as it exploding.
(Item #63 in the general conference is about the divorce.)
#923 of 925 by C. S. McGee (cmcgee) on Sun Mar 10 22:26:07 2002:
Chicken soup stock might taste more like chicken soup to you if you
boiled an onion or two in it, and 1/4 C celery with leaves, and maybe a
sprinkle of black pepper. Not much else though.
#924 of 925 by John Ellis Perry Jr. (jep) on Sun Mar 10 22:28:36 2002:
Onion. Okay, I trust I can put that in there now. Thanks! I don't
have any celery. I have some black pepper, I'll toss a little in, I
guess.
#925 of 925 by John Ellis Perry Jr. (jep) on Sun Mar 10 23:02:32 2002:
It did start smelling better immediately after I put in the onions.
And from the first taste, anyway, it tastes great. I'll take some for
lunch tomorrow. Thanks!
This is a big breakthrough for me, as I had thought I'd never be happy
with any chicken soup again. To have it come out at least edible on my
first try is encouraging.
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glenda
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response 2 of 23:
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Mar 11 13:19 UTC 2002 |
STeve makes great chicken soup. He uses chicken backs. Onions, celery and
carrots go into to water with the chicken along with salt and pepper. When
the chicken is falling off the bones (1-3 hrs) he strips removes the bones
and adjusts the salt/pepper. From there is varies. Sometimes he adds rice,
sometimes noodles, sometimes potatoes, usually barley. Fresh parsley goes
in about 15 min before serving. We serve it with big chunks of crustly bread
to soak in the broth. Yum.
Last night was onion family soup. Yellow onion, scallions, leeks, shallots
and garlic sweeted in butter. Add chicken broth and water. Season with salt
and pepper. We were out of bay leaves (which also go in the chicken soup
above) so he added 1 jalapeno pepper, just enough to add flavor but not heat.
Potatoes went in. When it was all tender chopped chives and half and half
were added. Again served with crusty bread. It was wonderful.
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davel
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response 3 of 23:
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Mar 11 14:19 UTC 2002 |
John, let the chicken cool longer before attempting to separate it from the
bones. Personally, I'd want a little salt, but if you've found other soup
too salty, maybe you don't need it. (OTOH, the proper amount of salt doesn't
taste *salty*; it just brings out the other flavors.)
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jep
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response 4 of 23:
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Mar 11 15:50 UTC 2002 |
I'm sure I'd burn myself less if I let the chicken cool before
separating the meat. I did try running cold water over it, and that
helped a lot.
I figure you can always add salt, but it's difficult to remove it.
What does the bay leaf add? I've read maybe 50 recipes for chicken
soup (okay, well, 12 anyway) and they all seem to call for a bay leaf.
I don't understand spices much.
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glenda
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response 5 of 23:
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Mar 11 17:14 UTC 2002 |
Bay leaf adds an extra layer of flavor. It would only be missed if you are
used to having it there. It does need to be added at the beginning.
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jep
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response 6 of 23:
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Mar 11 18:34 UTC 2002 |
I did need some salt, too. Heh. You'd think I'd have learned from
when I forgot the salt in my chili several weeks ago. A quick taste
was fine, but when it came to actually eating my soup, I wanted salt.
I think it will be fine once I correct that problem.
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slynne
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response 7 of 23:
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Mar 11 21:41 UTC 2002 |
It has been my experience that chicken soup tastes best when cooked for
a long time over a low heat. This is why I am glad I have a crock pot.
I also hate all the fat in it so here is how I make chicken soup.
chicken + water + carrots, celery and onions into the crock pot for all
day. Then I remove everything solid and put it in a seperate container
and I put the pot with the soup part into the fridge over night. In the
morning, I remove all the fat from the top. When I get home from work,
I microwave it to warm it up. (sometimes I cheat and put a soup cube
in.)
Ok, sometimes when I am sick and I dont have the energy to make real
chicken soup, I boil carrots and some onion in canned chicken broth and
it is a pretty close approximation to the real thing.
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jep
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response 8 of 23:
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Mar 11 23:21 UTC 2002 |
Aha, that's something I meant to ask about; making chicken soup in a
crock pot.
I have a crock pot. I don't have much time for cooking; especially on
the days when I have John, I want to go home and have dinner. I get
home at 6:15 or thereabouts with him. If I spend an hour cooking, then
that shoots the time we have to spend together, as he has a bath at
about 8 and goes to bed shortly thereafter.
So there I go. Thanks!
If there's not already a crock pot item in this conference, I think
I'll enter one.
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jep
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response 9 of 23:
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May 27 16:28 UTC 2003 |
It's a year later. I gave up on chicken soup for a long time because
it really wasn't that good, but over the weekend I had an urge, and so
I made some chicken soup.
This time, it came out a *lot* better. The reason: I put celery in
it. And carrots, onions, chicken bouillon cubes... I more or less
followed a recipe I found somewhere on the Internet, instead of winging
it on my own. I used their ingredients, but made up my own proportions.
I'm eating some right now. This chicken soup is very much edible. I'd
go so far as to say it's good. Other than chili, I'd have to say it's
the best thing I've ever made.
It's not perfect. I didn't know I should take out the skin, and had
chunks of flavorless fatty chicken skin floating around in my soup.
(It was easily corrected; I pick them out with a spoon and throw them
away.) Also, there are small bones in there. I'll have to try again
some time when it's not after midnight, and when I have more attention
and more patience.
But gee! I made something *good*! I am pretty proud of myself. I'll
have to put it on my calendar:
John Perry
age 42
May, 2003
"Made good chicken soup"
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glenda
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response 10 of 23:
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May 27 17:37 UTC 2003 |
Way to go John. It is a heady feeling isn't it.
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mary
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response 11 of 23:
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May 27 20:43 UTC 2003 |
Why don't you tell us what you and your son like to eat and then
those of us who have a foolproof recipe to suggest could enter it
here. Most of us have been where you are and understand.
But congratulations on the soup.
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slynne
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response 12 of 23:
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May 28 03:06 UTC 2003 |
My grandmother has a great trick for chicken soup. she puts in the
fridge overnight. all the fat rises to the top and she just skims it
off.
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