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Tucson, AZ Mark Unseen   Mar 6 22:09 UTC 1992

        Anyone know anything about Tucson, AZ?
63 responses total.
bad
response 1 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 22:10 UTC 1992

(other than that it's hotter than heck - I've got that one nailed)
danr
response 2 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 22:23 UTC 1992

Tucson, city, 1965 pop. 236,877, SE Ariz., SE of Phoenix; settled by
Spaniards in late 1600s. Father Eusebio Kino founded mission
nearby 1700. Presidio at Tubac moved here 1776. Became military
border post of New Spain, of Mexico, and, after Gadsen Purchase,
of US. Was territorial capital 1867-77. Longtime trade center for
mines, ranches, farms. Since 1880 an important rail center.
Sunny and dry, climate makes it year-round vacation and health
resort. Desert terrrain of nearby Saguara Natl. Monument
contrasts with cool Santa Catalina Mts. Seat of Univ of Arizona.
Davis-Monathan AFB is nearby.
 
courtesy of the Columbia Viking Desk Encyclopedia.
 
(So you're really going, eh?)
remmers
response 3 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 22:40 UTC 1992

Wull, last time ah was in Tucson, ah moseyed intuh the saloon
down on Main St for a shot o' whiskey and a few hands o' poker.
It were a Saturday night and all thuh ranch hands from miles
around was there, drinkin' it up at the bar an' jes' in general
carryin' on.  I spied muh ol' friend Clem sittin' by hisself in
thuh corInterrupt!
tcc
response 4 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 01:11 UTC 1992

Oh, that was funny.  You made me read it twice.

steve
response 5 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 01:53 UTC 1992

   Its an interesting city, and the home of the University of Arizona.
So in a lot of ways its like Ann Arbor.  But the politics of water is
going to make life increasingly differenet from what it was a few years
ago.  Too many easterners came there and thought they could live just
like they did before.  As a result, air borne irritants like pollens are
now actually worse than here in the midwest--and the water needed to create
this activity isn't available for that anymore.  It never really was, but
now we're starting to feel the effects.
   Some of the food there is incredible.  A lot of mexican and some
native american food is available.  That area of the US/Mexico is an
interesting mixture of indian/mexican, and is the birthplace of a unique
blend of foods.  The best known is the Chimmichanga, which was once
described to me as an "Appache eggroll".  While not really correct, it
does give an indication of the real thing.  What is called a Chimmighanga
here is NOT the real thing, or anything close to it.  Tuscon has what
many consider to be one of the finest places anywhere for them--El Minuto.
A small, ultra refrigerated Mexican hole-in-the-wall place that serves
very, very good food.  All I can say is that I have had dreams about
El Minuto Chimmichangas...
chelsea
response 6 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 13:42 UTC 1992

Yo, you're not goin' anywhere, kiddo, until you tune up all three of
our bikes for the commin' season.  Got that?
jdg
response 7 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 13:44 UTC 1992

Steve associates towns with their food.   
 
  >>> Drift    Drift    Drift <<<

Steve, the town of Dorset, MN, has the highest restaurant / per capita ratio
in the world.  Six restaurants, population 20 people.

Every August 2 they throw a huge party and thousands of people come.  They
publish the "Dorset Daily Bugle" once a year, whether there is news or not.

  >>> End Drift     End Drift <<<
jdg
response 8 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 13:45 UTC 1992

6 slipped in.
polygon
response 9 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 15:30 UTC 1992

For many years, Tucson was represented in Congress by Morris Udall, one of
my favorite members of the U.S. House.
steve
response 10 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 18:10 UTC 1992

   Probably Guilty.  But it *is* a wonderful place to eat.  I forgot to
mention the scenery.  Thats incredible, too.  Makes me wish that Michigan
had some terrain, ya know?
meg
response 11 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 02:02 UTC 1992

Wait, wait, you can't go yet, I got a bike that needs some work too.
bad
response 12 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 02:40 UTC 1992

Well, you've got until the end of May, so don't worry.
And that's only if I *graduate*. :)

        Tucson is wholly surrounded by mountains; or, at least, you can see
them in all directions. Roads go up into the mountains, which make for
much more interesting bicycling than a trip to Dexter. The roads are also
smooth. All of them. There isn't a smooth road within 300 miles of here.
        I've been to Tucson twice, for a total of about two weeks. The second
time, my hair melted. 
        I'll have to hit that hole-in-the-wall...thanks, STeve...
steve
response 13 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 02:50 UTC 1992

   If you do go down there, it'll be another reason to get there again.
It really is a nice place.  But the water situation still bothers me.
I think its going to get a lot worse.
bad
response 14 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 08:25 UTC 1992

        The current plan is to hit the road at the end of May, and stay
in Tucson through the summer, and hopefully the next winter as well, working
some variety of low-level computer or other jobs. Staying through the 
winter would be sort of a payoff for staying through the summer - the
summer is going to be nasty.
        This is dependant on the scrub jobs not drying up, and no good 
job jumping in my face.
        I don't have any real desire to stay there long-term, mainly 
because of the utter lack of water that STeve mentioned. Desert just seems 
a little unstable.
denise
response 15 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 21:27 UTC 1992

[}iThis is now item 9 in the travel conference.]
terru
response 16 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 07:36 UTC 1992

Tucson is a great place.  There's skiing up in the hills to the North and the
backpacking is neat, because you start in pines and walk down to cactus.  I
don't know about mountains on all sides, there's the ones to the north and the
Rincon mountains in the East, but it's a long stretch to the erroded hills
south.!caht !chat
tnt
response 17 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 00:39 UTC 1992

Arizona is a racist state.
steve
response 18 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 00:42 UTC 1992

   Why?  Or rather, is it any more racist than any other state?
mistik
response 19 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 01:36 UTC 1992

Is it more racist than Detroit?
jdg
response 20 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 01:48 UTC 1992

Detroit's not a state.  Well, a state of anarchy, but that's about all.
popcorn
response 21 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 02:22 UTC 1992

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mistik
response 22 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 03:00 UTC 1992

In Detroit they yell at you because you are not black.  That's racist enough.
steve
response 23 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 03:14 UTC 1992

   I think that if you dig a little, you can always find racist people.
There are people with small minds and hearts everywhere.  But there are
good people everywhere, too.
   Is the jug half empty, or half full?
mistik
response 24 of 63: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 03:29 UTC 1992

In case of Detroit, 80 % empty.  Those 20 % seem to be moving to Southfield.
(20 % is plenty generous)

I guess if the level is at half, you can see it either way.  It may look
that way with Arizona too, seems to depend on where you look from.

I am sure a black person has not the same problems I have in Detroit, and
I don't seem to have a problem with Arizona as long as I am not there :)
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