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kain
Hypnosis Mark Unseen   Sep 23 01:15 UTC 1995

HYPNOSIS: is it possible? if so how and why do you think it works? have you
ever experienced it? what does it feel like? why can the hypnotist perform
these feets that are almost magical, I'd say that's paranormal, what are your
thoughts on the subject?
56 responses total.
snafu
response 1 of 56: Mark Unseen   Sep 23 18:43 UTC 1995

It could be paranormal, but in MY humble opinion it's just odd. But it works
orinoco
response 2 of 56: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 15:06 UTC 1995

Not at all paranormal...just understanding how the human mind works and
explaiting that knowledge.
hoagy
response 3 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 08:11 UTC 1995

        "paranormal" is a catch-all word used incorrectly in
our society today.  Paranormal refers to those things which
have no ability to exist in our reality, but somehow find
a way to bugger in when least expected.  This refers to
ESP, Ghosts, the Loch Ness Monster, UFOs, etc.  However,
paranormal now applies mostly to ghosts, esp, hauntings, etc.

        Hypnosis isn't paranormal whatsoever.  It's a method
of inducing a relaxed state on a subject and then introducing
to that subject suggestions for behavior, or in some cases, 
memory recall and suppression.

        "Post-hypnotic suggestions" don't work.  Fantasy.
So are these "quit smoking now" tapes.  I've heard more people
complain that these tapes cause nightmares than anything else.


orinoco
response 4 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 21:07 UTC 1995

If anything, people can be hypnotized because they want to be
hypnotized...it's similar to faith-healing--if you WANT it to
work, and you belive it WILL work, then it might work.
amoco
response 5 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 21:33 UTC 1995

Hypnotism allows for the defenses of the Conscious brain to be turned off.
When fully awake, your conscious mind delegates whether or not something is
true, or whether it will be said.  It's alomost a part of tact, but it can
also be the conscious mind's attempt to save your brain from what might hurt
it.  Repressed memories works here. Even though it is not neccesarily
dangerous, your conscious mind decides not to take chances with the
unfavorable.  TiIt covers it up, but it is still logged in your memory
(evrything is, recovering than info is another stroy)
hoagy
response 6 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 04:39 UTC 1995

        False memory syndrome is now a fact.  Shrinks have been
trying to use the abused-child routine to get their clients
to spend more money on therapy.  Lawyers can then get some bucks.
And so on.  Hypnosis is regarded as the only way to "get in touch" with
these so-called 'repressed' memories.  
        Since hypnosis has no scientific validity, it's pretty pointless.
Yes, you will be able to become hypnotized if you allow yourself
to do that.  It's like being sick.  If you want to heal, you will.
(Unless it's terminal, well then...)  If you want to stay sick,
you shall.  The mind is a powerful instrument.  
orinoco
response 7 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 23:46 UTC 1995

It is true that hypnotism may recover some repressed memories...in the hands 
of a good honest shrink.  Often, though, false memories come with the real ones
eldrich
response 8 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 20:56 UTC 1995

<Eldrich delves into his subconsious and pulls out a herring>
kain
response 9 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 01:59 UTC 1995

what exactly si faith healing?
orinoco
response 10 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 19:55 UTC 1995

kain kain kain...what are we going to do with you?

Let me tell you a little story.

A man begins to suffer from headaches.  He takes asprin, and at first it works,
but the headaches come back.  So one of the man's friends, a guy by the name
of Joe, tells him to eat a tuna-fish sandwich every day, and the headaches
will go away.  Now our friend with the headaches is Joe's biggest fan.  He is
convinced that, if Joe said the tuna-fish cure will work, the tuna-fish
cure *really will* work.
So he starts eating tuna, and, amazingly, the headaches go away.  Even though
there's no reason why eating tuna should help, it does.  Why?  Because he has
convinced himself that the headaches *WILL* stop, that they *HAVE* to stop,
and so his mind just ignores them.  
sharlene
response 11 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 02:14 UTC 1995

If you are interested in the powers of hypnosis... expand your interest
and explore the information provided in the Seth books.
kain
response 12 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 02:39 UTC 1995

oh okay
eldrich
response 13 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 20:54 UTC 1995

<Eldrich consiters making sub-titles for the uninlitened>
<Eldrich trys to spell and dies trying>
llanarth
response 14 of 56: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 23:48 UTC 1995

Hypnosis is certainly an odd thing.. If you have hypnosis done on you, and you
are any bit skeptical.. it's very likely that it will not work.. But if you
belive in it.. and belive it will help you.. it may just work.. I had it done
on me when i was younger.. like maybe 8 or 9 years old. At this age.. I didn't
really belive in it much.. I was anxious to get out of that stupid room and go
play in the snow or something.. it's probly a lot harder to hypnotise kids.. 
that's all i got for now.. bye.

orinoco
response 15 of 56: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 04:10 UTC 1995

Welcome to the weirdness that is thezone llan...
llanarth
response 16 of 56: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 17:50 UTC 1995

I'm weird too!
orinoco
response 17 of 56: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 20:56 UTC 1995

I don't doubt it....
kain
response 18 of 56: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 02:53 UTC 1995

actually I think it owuld be easier on a child because the don't think the
way we do they have more imagination and  they can believe in stuff, adaults
on the other hand don't really believe in magic or any such things and
therefore probly would think it wouldn't work and when you think hypnosis
won't work, it won't
orinoco
response 19 of 56: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 22:27 UTC 1995

not necessarily, but in general that may be true kain
llanarth
response 20 of 56: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 18:42 UTC 1995

you just don't know, Jon.
y
response 21 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 17:13 UTC 1996

For the most part our subconcious will protect us from anything that might
do damage or that we are not ready for.  Perhaps something that happened in
the room where Jessica was going to be hypnotised caused her subcon to veto
the idea.  After all, Jessica did bring up that she really wasn't into the
whole thing which would suggest to me that whomever it was that attempted to
hypnotise her (or  maybe somebody else in the room) was pushing her to try
it. By the way.. was this a "professional" hypnotist?
llanarth
response 22 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 20 00:37 UTC 1996

Yea Dan, it was.. he's one of my dad's friends, whom I havn't seen since then,
because he lives in Florida.
nistel
response 23 of 56: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 16:08 UTC 1996

listen, guys - i'm no professional, but i've an active interest in the
subject. here are certain points that i wish to share with you.
1 no one can hypnotise you against your will.  it follows that a weak
individual can be hypnotised easily.
2 the brain is more complex than our present knowledge can comprehend. 
Playing with its depth is like playing with a force that is beyond all the
power in the world.  We should make careful progress, yes.  but leaps and
strides might only do hard - and every life is precious.
3 yes, it is possible to cure psycho somatic ailments through the power of
suggestion.  it is commonly referred as self determination.  If you cant do
that by yourself, you'll probably need a shrink.  but no one can do what YOU
have to do. so there !
i've lots more but we'll take it one step at a time.  bye.
snafu
response 24 of 56: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 02:21 UTC 1996

Interesting... forces beyond our control... Sorta like fission and fusion...
God (or whoever or whatever, don't kill me...) uses Fusion to make stars burn,
and here we men are tinkering with it as though it were a harmless erector
set, although we really don't understand it....
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