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Grex > Synthesis > #89: Seeking a Legally Ordained Pagan Minister | |
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mta
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Seeking a Legally Ordained Pagan Minister
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Mar 24 02:02 UTC 1996 |
Hi, all. I'm getting married in a few months and am looking for a legally
ordained minister of some pagan church or other. Does anyone know of anyone?
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kami
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response 1 of 20:
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Mar 24 04:33 UTC 1996 |
Fox is. Not Wiccan, though- Druidic. Both Brighn and Valerie are. John
Morris is. want more info?
Congrats and good luck,
how do the boys feel about it?
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selena
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response 2 of 20:
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Mar 24 16:41 UTC 1996 |
Legally ordained?
How many months do I have to apply for ordainment? :)
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mta
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response 3 of 20:
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Mar 24 17:38 UTC 1996 |
Both of the guys are OK with it. Corey perhaps more so than TJ, because TJ
and Larry aren't all that close. Then again TJ's busy putting distance
between himself and all of us. <sigh>
Hmmm, well since I'm not Wiccan per se, I don't need a wiccan "minister".
Thanks, Kami.
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brighn
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response 4 of 20:
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Mar 24 21:12 UTC 1996 |
Ordained folks I know of in the state of Michigan:
Fox (aka Rev. John Adelman)
Brighn (aka Rev. Paul Kershaw)
Rev. Valerie Hartzer
Rev. John Morris
Nike (aka Rev. Kelly Weaver)
um... I think that's it for Southeastern Michigan.
I'm always willing to do weddings.
(I should've said oradained Pagan folks...)
Selena love, to be ordained you need a church or a congregation.
In the State of Michigan, you need three people to form a church.
Hey...
wait a second..
*giggle*
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robh
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response 5 of 20:
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Mar 24 22:02 UTC 1996 |
Hmm, I know all of them except Nike. brighn and I must hang
out in the same circles. Literally. >8)
Three people to form a church? "First Pagan Church of Grex" anybody?
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brighn
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response 6 of 20:
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Mar 24 22:43 UTC 1996 |
That and $10, or something, plus annual reports (which have a $10 fee or so)
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bjorn
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response 7 of 20:
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Mar 25 00:07 UTC 1996 |
Very Interesting - but I got college to worry about.
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kami
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response 8 of 20:
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Mar 25 02:23 UTC 1996 |
OK, Rob, what would be the "creed" or "mission" of the First Pagan Church
of Grex? "Let's get together"? <giggle>
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robh
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response 9 of 20:
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Mar 25 02:46 UTC 1996 |
That would be a good start. >8)
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bjorn
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response 10 of 20:
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Mar 25 18:26 UTC 1996 |
I'll second that emotion!
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birdlady
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response 11 of 20:
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Mar 25 19:06 UTC 1996 |
I didn't know there *was* such a thing as a "legally ordained Pagan minister".
So that means for a handfasting to be a legal marriage, it has to be done by
an ordained Pagan priest? Eep! I was just planning on asking my favorite
shaman to perform mine.
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brighn
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response 12 of 20:
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Mar 25 19:41 UTC 1996 |
Unless it's either a Justice of the Peace or a legally ordained minister,
they can't sign a State of Michigan Marriage License. Sucks, don't it,
Sarah?
OF course, anyone can perform the ceremony, the State just won't recognize it.
(there's something called a lay clergy license, by the way, which is what
Fox has... when he performed his first legal handfasting, he wasn't in the
position to be ordained by ADF and had to apply to the State for a lay
clergy license, petitioning that since he had a congregation, he should have
the right to marry and bury them (tacky clergy parlance I picked up from
my U-Methodist minister father)... the rest of the people on that list
have ordinations through recognized churches. John's is through the UUs,
Nike's through, ummmm... CAW, I *think*, and Val and I are through SOTSM,
Sanctuary of the Silver Moon, the only Earth Spirituality church recognized
by the State of Michigan, last I heard, though they are a couple others
trying for State recognition... and if your Shaman is recognized by the
Native Americans, the credentials can be transferred to the State... I'd
forgottenthat Chris Loughlin (grex login Vampyre, also known as Catdance)
has NA clergy rights, which would transfer to the State if he got the right
paperwork...)
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kami
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response 13 of 20:
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Mar 25 23:41 UTC 1996 |
re: # 12- no, Fox is legally ordained through ADF as of Wellspring, last
May-- it was part of his 3rd circle initiation/ordination ritual. He's legal.
Didn't know about Catdance's credentials. Thanks.
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brighn
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response 14 of 20:
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Mar 26 01:02 UTC 1996 |
O.k. =} When he married Johnna and Gwydion, though, it was based on
lay clergy... I'd assumed he'd gotten full ADF blessing with 3rd circle,
but wasn't sure.
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bjorn
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response 15 of 20:
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Mar 26 13:15 UTC 1996 |
Bjorn wishes he had benn born 500 years ago, or that he lived in Island
(Iceland) so that he could learn/be a Volsung priest - the right way . . .
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birdlady
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response 16 of 20:
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Mar 26 19:19 UTC 1996 |
Thanks for the info, Brighn...and yes, it does suck. =(
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mta
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response 17 of 20:
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Apr 7 02:45 UTC 1996 |
Thanks for the information, everyone ... I think I have it narrowed down.
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kami
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response 18 of 20:
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Apr 7 03:17 UTC 1996 |
Super! Now for the hard part- not the wedding, the marriage <g>
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mta
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response 19 of 20:
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Apr 8 00:58 UTC 1996 |
Indeed. This will be my second marriage -- I wasn't even neervous going into
the first one. This time I'm about equal parts thrilled and scared. I guess
it goes to show you I now have some perpe\spective on what I'm getting into.
<grin>
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kami
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response 20 of 20:
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Apr 9 19:05 UTC 1996 |
That sounds more promising...<g>
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