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moo
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Therapeuti Medicine or Myth?
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Apr 12 12:49 UTC 1995 |
Recently, several Ontario hospitals have started therapeutic touch \clinics
for cancer patients. I'd like to here everyone's oppinion on this eastern
medical treatment and methods of touch theraoy that you know of.
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morgayn
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response 1 of 52:
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Apr 12 13:26 UTC 1995 |
Hmmm...before I spew my opinion off onto you, could you do me and others who
are ignorant a favor and tell me what therapeutic touch is? Is it anything like
accupuncture?
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val
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response 2 of 52:
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Apr 12 16:24 UTC 1995 |
I've heard that massaging babies helps them grow better, and reduces
Failure to Thrive, but please tell us about theraputic touch.
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moo
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response 3 of 52:
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Apr 13 15:33 UTC 1995 |
oops, yeah. Therapeutic touch is a method of healing based on contact
with the patient. Roleplayers in the AD&D role playing game may
be familiar with a paladin's ability to "lay hands" in order to heal.
Sometimes, as in the ontario case, the hands never touch the body, but instead
"Smooth the energy field" of the patient. Some believe it is a powers granted
by religious dieties in times of need, others consider it a birth gift, some
think it can be practised by anyone who has the dicipline to learn the "Kung"
or acquired Skill (Kung is chinese), but most in the west consider it a hoax.
Many canadians (whose tax-dollars go to fund such programs) are concerened
that their hard earned cash is going toward mumbo-jumbo.
Certainly its not an old practise, it's been around in china for
thousands of years, and is believed in by all major oriental religions.
So that, in a
nutshell is what herapeutic touch is all about.
p.s. contact on the first line of this responce refers to hand contact.
note therapeutic touch is a seperate branch of medicine from massage
therapy.
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kami
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response 4 of 52:
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Apr 13 15:57 UTC 1995 |
Sounds like it's related to polarity therapy and Reiki. It does indeed
have perceptible effects and can be helpful. Combined with other
techniques such as shiatsu or physical therapy exercizes, it can help with
recovery after an injury or from an old injury. My sense is that the
benefits in dealing with deep-seated, emotionally rooted problems is that
it can help but won't solve the problem; the patient will have to make the
real, long term, inner changes. It's not mumbo-jumbo, but it's not going
to feel "safe" to everyone. Some folks might find it, oddly enough,
invasive just because it's "wierd" and they aren't used to feeling sensations
where there is little or no direct manipulation going on, or becuase they
just aren't used to feeling good in a sensual way. It's neat that the
medical establishment in Canada is willing to try stuff like this.
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moo
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response 5 of 52:
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Apr 13 17:16 UTC 1995 |
Oh yeah, Canadians and Europeans (not to mention the chinese) are much more
eager to experiment with this sort of thing that we Americans are. Now I'm not
going to pull a Gingritch here and propose a whole Newt world w/ no FDA, but I
think it needs reform.
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selena
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response 6 of 52:
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Apr 15 07:45 UTC 1995 |
Reiki sucks.
The rest of it's okay, I guess, but Reiki screws me up.
One of my felow model's mother was into Reiki, and it just made me really ill.
She claimed it was "good for everybody". Right. Not this little red-haired
irish woman.
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ajax
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response 7 of 52:
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Apr 15 17:17 UTC 1995 |
Touch therapy, with no touching, sounds like it has a similar effect
to wonder-cure sugar pills: lots of people say they feel better afterwards,
if they believe the sugar pills should make them feel better. Cancer
reversal has been attributed to such things as Three Stooges videos.
It also probably helps the patient to have a human paying attention to
them, whether it's telling them a joke or waving ones hands over them while
explaining the science behind hand waving.
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kami
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response 8 of 52:
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Apr 15 20:15 UTC 1995 |
Selena, your experience with Reiki "sucks". It doesn't mean the practitioner
was competent, or that that was there right time for you to have a
treatment, or whatever. And indeed, it might not be the best approach for
you. That doesn't mean it "sucks". From what I've heard, it just seems
a bit of a fancy way of packaging good old fashioned "laying on of hands" or
"energy healing" or whatever.
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selena
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response 9 of 52:
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Apr 18 04:10 UTC 1995 |
No, I mean it HURT. And that SUCKS.
<Unenlightened-sounding? sorry, it's how I feel>
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kami
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response 10 of 52:
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Apr 18 17:38 UTC 1995 |
My mom said the same thing abut chiropractic. I use it as my primary health
care method whenever possible- and I wouldn't go twice to a chiropractor who
hurt.
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matthew
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response 11 of 52:
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Apr 19 16:20 UTC 1995 |
You may want to look into finding an osteopathic physician. Chiropractic
medicine was orginally derived from osteopathic medicine. Osteopathy
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insanity
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response 12 of 52:
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Apr 19 16:47 UTC 1995 |
My brother is undergoing this type treatement right now. A mother of
a friend of his came to visit him at the hospital, but she called it
healing by the aura. He was badly burned, in case you were wondering what she's
treating him for
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morgayn
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response 13 of 52:
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Apr 22 17:15 UTC 1995 |
Healing by the aura....can you elaborate?
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insanity
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response 14 of 52:
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Apr 24 12:28 UTC 1995 |
Morgayn, I'm beginning to think your always going to ask me to
elaborate...next time ask me to say more please....just to add some
variety. Smile! Sure healing by the aura, as I understand it, is you feel
the aura, and exert your own to interject calm aura vibrations, or healthy
ones. You also send positive. You calm the persons own troubled aura.
I once heard it called healing by colors, where if say someone has a hurt
back...you'd see the aura as some pain assocaited color...such as orange,
then use your will, energy to change the color back to the persons normal
color or just a healthy relaxed color. Does that explain it? I'm afraid
I'm not an expert though and could be off in my description.
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kami
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response 15 of 52:
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Apr 25 03:26 UTC 1995 |
Actually, Brenna, that's not a bad explanation, really.
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insanity
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response 16 of 52:
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Apr 25 13:37 UTC 1995 |
Thanks Kami!
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selena
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response 17 of 52:
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Apr 27 04:50 UTC 1995 |
And if your aura isn't compatible with the person you're treating,
it screws them up! Okay, that makes sense.
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iggy
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response 18 of 52:
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Jul 5 22:11 UTC 1995 |
i am a reiki II. one should not force healing on someone, even if it
*is* for their own good. i dont care if everything in the
universe is telling me i'm doing the right thing.. if someone says
'no', then 'no' it is.
sometimes when you are doing reiki to heal the body, itmay also
have some healing effects on the emotions. and *that* can be painful,
especially if it is something you dont want to face.
um.. other things to watch for.. if the healer isnt good
about keeping themselves and their channels 'clean', you might
accidentally transfer a bit of crappiness.
and if the healer isnt feeling good themselves they shouldnt
try to heal someone else at that time.
i believe the body is a filter of sorts, and if you let
a filter get all gunked up...well...
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kami
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response 19 of 52:
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Jul 6 04:32 UTC 1995 |
Iggy, good advice for any type of healing work, not just Reiki. Thank you.
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iggy
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response 20 of 52:
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Jul 7 00:04 UTC 1995 |
you are welcome.
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selena
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response 21 of 52:
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Sep 2 06:52 UTC 1995 |
Iggy- that's fine, but it's a bit much to just assume reiki's
"good for everyone". Milk isn't good for everyone, but it's fine for others.
Same for soybeans. You know how power is ac or dc? what if reiki is "ac"
but the person you're working on is "dc"?
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iggy
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response 22 of 52:
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Sep 4 14:32 UTC 1995 |
i work a lot with energy, i do not see it as either AC or DC.
everyone's energy is different. for reiki to be able to work
on so many different things <people, animals, plants, spirits etc> it
is pretty adaptable.
the simple matter is, if it feels wrong to either the giver or
reciever, STOP!!
once i was reiki-ing someone's sore back, and suddenly we were in the
midst of a past life regression where her back had been injured
in that very spot. since i was 'new' to reiki and had just begun
getting tutored in how to do other psychic things, i didnt
handle the situation very well. the person kinda freaked out and started
sobbing. i didnt know enough to stop immediately, and the person
re-experienced being impaled.
looking back, i should have stopped and given her a choice.
my inexperience caused someone a great deal of pain. but at the time
i thought i knew everything.
<as opposed to now when i really do know everything ;-) >
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kami
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response 23 of 52:
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Sep 6 02:33 UTC 1995 |
Iggy, that sounds hairy. I know sometimes it's hard to find a graceful
way to disengage from a situation, and no one *likes* to be graceless or
awkward. I've been in the position, more than once, of knowing there was
a problem but not how to stop the momentum or fix it. Helps to have another
person who is an experienced monitor, but that luxury isn't always available.
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selena
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response 24 of 52:
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Sep 7 16:12 UTC 1995 |
Iggy, I think you missed the point.
Reiki works for some people very well. Maybe even most.
BUT, you cannot assume it is good for everyone! Energy conflicts CAN occur.
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