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rapier
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What is Necromancy?
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Dec 9 14:44 UTC 1994 |
I noticed that there is no discussion of necromancy in this section...is there
a reason for this? I, myself, haven't any experience with this but I would like
to learn about it. So, let the discussion begin, what exactly is necromancy?
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eeyore
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response 1 of 58:
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Dec 9 15:31 UTC 1994 |
that is a very good question. i have no clue.
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anne
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response 2 of 58:
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Dec 9 15:43 UTC 1994 |
me neither.
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morgayn
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response 3 of 58:
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Dec 9 15:57 UTC 1994 |
Eeeeep!!!! I think that goes along with that book that I despise...
"Necrominicon"...err... something like that....Eeeeep!!!!! Seriously, input,
Brighn? Kami? Phaedrus?
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acelt
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response 4 of 58:
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Dec 9 18:57 UTC 1994 |
Necromancy is magic that involves the dead. i.e. raising the spirits of
the dead to learn of future or distant current events, binding a dead
person's spirit to serve one or more functions, &c. &c. ad naseaum. In
general, it could be said to be most any magic(k)al practice involving
communication with or attempted manipulation &c. of the spirits of the
dead. The legendaary practice of "raising the dead" would also fall under
this definition.
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rapier
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response 5 of 58:
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Dec 9 21:41 UTC 1994 |
Thank you, felis uncia. i wanted somone to explain what it was before I asked
questions about it. Now then, why is this regarded as an evil practice?
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brighn
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Dec 9 22:40 UTC 1994 |
Literally, necro = dead + mancy = divination.
Its principlal usage, or so I've always thought, is in reference to
seances and Ouija boards, that sort of thing.
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robh
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Dec 9 23:57 UTC 1994 |
I wouldn't consider it "evil", though I have no interest in it
myself. Leave the dead alone, they have enough problems of
their own. >8)
BTW, necromancy also applies to the use of dead bodies, or parts
of dead bodies, for magickal purposes. But that's pretty
disgusting.
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acelt
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Dec 10 00:57 UTC 1994 |
Re #6: Brighn is, of course eytemologically correct (sp?). However,
"Necromancy" has, since it's linguistic origins, "branched-out"to include
all of the variants described here so far. As to Necromantic
morals/ethics, I decline to comment, save that taboos &c regarding
disturbance of the dead and their slumber probably had a great deal to do
with conceptions regarding the art.
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morgayn
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response 9 of 58:
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Dec 10 14:40 UTC 1994 |
This does not sound like something I would want to take part in, at least on
a regular basis. I don't know enough about it to know what all it encompasses,
so I guess I cannot say if I would write it off entirely or not.
Morg
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rapier
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response 10 of 58:
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Dec 10 16:17 UTC 1994 |
Does channelling fit into this category at all?
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sera
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response 11 of 58:
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Dec 10 17:20 UTC 1994 |
I've read the necronomicon it was interesting.
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cyberpnk
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response 12 of 58:
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Dec 10 19:40 UTC 1994 |
Channeling would fit in that most of the spirits that are channeled are
usually dead. As for the Necronomicon, I've heard a lot of stories about the
authorship of said book, but as for actual use, I would discourage it. I've
read it, and while there are ways to call up things, there seem to be very few
ways to put them down.
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vampyre
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response 13 of 58:
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Dec 13 12:26 UTC 1994 |
ok sorry to but in but i had to clear up this necronicon thing.. the book dosnt
exist it never did <gryn> ok get this H.P. or old man Lovecraft want to right
bah type wanted to write a big time horror book so he made up stories that
revolved around a book he made up fo the store caled the you guessed it the
necro about the old ones and there retrung and sick fun shit........ well it
seems they wernt very popular untell a fan who realy REALY liked the stories
set out and wrote the Necronomicon and published it for a fortuain claiming it
to be the REAL one well the more H.P. denyed that it existed and said it was
fiction the less people belevied him and thought it was real and H.P.'s book
strated selling like hot cakes and the publisher said H.P. baby weve got a
killer on our hands and talked H.P. into publicly "coming out" into the open
and admiting it was an acent text that he based his books off of and so you see
the book of the dead gods is all just one huge publisdy stunt norman Rockwell's
got nothin on Lovecraft sly old bouger that he was...
coming to you from the Vampyre abashed encoclopida history in a nutshell
or the stuid guid thatd flunk you! ;P
Vamp
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vampyre
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response 14 of 58:
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Dec 13 12:30 UTC 1994 |
oh and lo
...... im gona figure this out.. but as i was saying oh and by the way i found
confrence!! and almost have it figured out <NErrrF> happy now?
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brighn
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Dec 13 15:59 UTC 1994 |
Mostly happy, Chris. Your streams of consciousness punctuationless texts
are a bit hard to process. :) But we'll keep you anyways.
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anne
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Dec 13 19:13 UTC 1994 |
Congrats Chris, yes we're happy... now that we have you in one conference,
it won't be hard to get you into others!
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kami
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Dec 14 04:43 UTC 1994 |
HI Chris!!!! <g> Welcome home.
Brighn, who was it was saying the basis of the Necronomicon is Sumerian
myth/magic? My sense is that you can get into exactly as much trouble with
it as you want to, especially if you are in the midst of the bloody
adolescent surge when you are all power and no control, but if you are
looking for serious, sustainable, in depth growth, that ain't where it's
at.
As to necromancy, you'll get an automatic "ick", as you just saw, but if you
want to use the broad definition, I've met some perfectly pleasant dead
folks hanging out in places I lived or visited. Sometimes they don't know
they are dead, and when you tell them that, they are glad to go off and do
dead people stuff. Or else they like where they are and continue to hang
out. 'Long about Samhain, we usually go out for a walk with whatever
beloved dead might be willing to come join us, and it's traditional in
many cultures to set a beacon and make them welcome then. On the other
hand, as Robh pointed out, don't bother them if they don't want to be,
they got enough to do. Now, slimy guts and gobbets I can do without:
it's illegal, unsanitary and not very useful. Most of the spectacular
stuff, unless you're Jeffrey Dalmer, belongs in a cheesy fantasy novel.
Not a particularly good source of power or information. Exceptions: using
a personal object to get the attention of a "ghost" to find out why they
went missing or how they were killed in the case of violence: they might
appreciate the closure.
That help?
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vampyre
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Dec 14 05:09 UTC 1994 |
well brighn im working on legibilty. you will see it improve.. i hope <gryn>
hi kami well umm i said all i had to say on this subject so! see you in other
items!
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gerund
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response 19 of 58:
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Dec 14 05:13 UTC 1994 |
So then... what's it called when the dead don't leave YOU alone?
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kami
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response 20 of 58:
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Dec 14 05:23 UTC 1994 |
a bloody nuisance!
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gerund
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response 21 of 58:
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Dec 14 06:08 UTC 1994 |
Yep. I had a dream the other night.
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kami
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response 22 of 58:
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Dec 14 07:10 UTC 1994 |
well, are you going to tell us about your dream?
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gerund
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response 23 of 58:
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Dec 14 07:16 UTC 1994 |
As soon as I'm able to be comfortable with it, yeah....
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phaedrus
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response 24 of 58:
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Dec 15 19:24 UTC 1994 |
I never thought about it but many of the African practices fit right into this
catagory. I do rituals regularly to give homage to and get the blessings of
the dead. As well most African Witchcraft deals with the dead. I never thought
I'd thik of Necromancy in this way:)
As for it being evil...in what way???
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