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MANTRAS
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May 18 00:28 UTC 1994 |
Anybody there got a favorite mantra? What's it mean, bub?
One of mine is *OM NAMAHA SHIVAYA* which means "Shiva, I bow
before Thee in reverence, Shiva being the aspect of god that de-
stroys ignorance.
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jkrauss
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May 18 13:24 UTC 1994 |
ive got several.
i either use 'satis' or 'non illegimati carborundum'
the first means 'enough' or 'what you have, it is enough'
the second means 'feel no anger'
i use either of them, or occasionally a different one,
depending on the situation.
hmm.. might try om namaha Shivaya sometime.
for me, its not the wording that matters, though, its the
personal significance. ten words might sound better, but
one might mean more to you. its if it has personal
meaning.
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kami
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May 18 14:08 UTC 1994 |
I don't so much use mantras as favorite chants/songs which I can set to running
in the back of my mind for calm, protection (or at least courage), confidence,
focus/centering, grounding, transport (contact with the sacred), etc.
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md
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May 18 14:15 UTC 1994 |
"Non illegitimi carborundum" is supposed to be a joke. Hugh Hefner
used to have it posted on the front door of the Playboy mansion in
Chicago. "Carborundum" is the brand name of various abrasives. The
saying is supposed to mean "Don't let the bastards grind you down."
It's what used to be called "macaronic" - ie, a gag saying that
combines Latin with English vernacular. But despite that, I think
it's as good a mantra as any other. My personal mantra is "We're
all fucked and we deserve it," but I can't tell you what it is
because it's supposed to be bad luck.
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May 18 16:26 UTC 1994 |
My usual one is "Whatever works," but that has to be taken within context of
my own greater value system to be properly understood.
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jkrauss
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May 18 23:31 UTC 1994 |
Hell, thats not what i heard about it. better check my latin
<blush>
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fuz
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response 6 of 37:
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May 24 01:54 UTC 1994 |
on another subject (but they say not to "enter") anyone heard of Pantheist
Atheism? basic premise- believe in ALL gods dreamamed up by men, women and
small fuzzy creatures from Tau Seti- and that their power is from belief. we
don't worship them though because they don't do a real bang-up job of managing
things.
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val
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response 7 of 37:
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May 24 03:04 UTC 1994 |
all things exist beause of beleif. even things that don't exist for one
person can affect the health of others.
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phaedrus
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response 8 of 37:
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May 24 15:15 UTC 1994 |
I second that!
I this weren't true then by xtian philosophy we are all worshipping satan.
Even JR Bob Dobbs is real:)
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vishnu
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response 9 of 37:
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May 27 11:36 UTC 1994 |
Me too!
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jkrauss
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Jun 12 01:50 UTC 1994 |
re#6: i feel the same way, the real power is not in
the reality of gods but in the belief. i'worship' (if
that is the right word) the *idea* of a god/goddess/creator,
and the *idea* of a supreme moral force, rather that
the god/goddess/creator him/her/itself.
(translation: i'm agnostic, dammit!)
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kami
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response 11 of 37:
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Jun 13 16:04 UTC 1994 |
Awfully nebulous and fine distinctions- One image has the gods being "real",
solid, discrete people creating a world out of "clay". Another has the stuff
of creation all in a primordial soup from which we abstract both the material
world and our images of the gods- but that does not address the initial cause
of the forms the world has taken. And yet another view holds that we are "real"
and create our images of the gods to meet our psychological needs, they having
no existence separate from our belief. Take your pick or make another way
of looking at it, I suppose.
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phaedrus
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Jun 13 19:16 UTC 1994 |
These are the mysteries, eh??!!
Do you have a distinct view Kami??
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jkrauss
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Jun 13 21:31 UTC 1994 |
well, i'm #3. gods are phsychological constructs, but useful
ones.
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phaedrus
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response 14 of 37:
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Jun 14 12:16 UTC 1994 |
I think they're more than Jungian templates, or psychological manifestations.
The Gods that is...
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kami
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response 15 of 37:
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Jun 16 19:07 UTC 1994 |
I believe my view is currently in flux, shifting from #2 to something closer to
#1, but not quite.
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phaedrus
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response 16 of 37:
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Jun 17 12:04 UTC 1994 |
Sounds like you've been....<<THINKING>>> AHHHHHH!!! The destroyer of religions,
thought!!! That's really cool, and good that you're view is changing.
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kami
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Jun 17 15:04 UTC 1994 |
SHit happened. I cleaned it up. NOw I'm working on the compost pile...
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ssb
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response 18 of 37:
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May 24 11:12 UTC 1996 |
Hello, Peter. Nice knowing someone who believes in Shiva, the great!
My favourite mantra incidently is also "OM NAMAHA SHIVAYA". It gives
me peace of mind, a sense of well-being, the ability to take
disappointments, and the cruel ways of the world in my stride and make
my own path in the world for tohers to follow.
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bjorn
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May 24 14:39 UTC 1996 |
I forgot what my current title in this conference is, but I know it used to
be The Eclectic Pagan Cleric - for I believe an all deities of all religions
save one . . .
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kami
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response 20 of 37:
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May 25 01:41 UTC 1996 |
Wow! Resurrected after nearly a year. This poor item...
Shakuntala, when you speak of the gifts confered by the use of this mantra,
to what extent would you attribute them to a)the meaning of the words
b) visualizations which accompany your use of the mantra c)your expectations
and/or d) the sounds themselves and how they resonante in the body/soul.
Gee, you know, it sort of reminds me of something else; in many of the
traditional Celtic stories, you get a sort of intro in which the Seanachie
names a bunch of fairly specific blessings to be gotten by hearing or telling
that tale. Given the use of sound in sacred storytelling (chant patterns,
tonal patterns, specific harp chords), I wonder if there are similarities
between the use of traditional tales or poems and the use of mantras?
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carioni
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response 21 of 37:
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Mar 24 20:27 UTC 1998 |
my boys, stay relaxed, make no shit, keep u minds clean...thats all
and 4 those who want +, got it:
FA-RA-ON
E-GIP-TO
LA-RA-SH
want more?
send me and e-mail: carioni@cyberspace.org
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font
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Mar 29 07:52 UTC 1998 |
wow! while I was having a life...this conf took off!
I have a few mantras, like "relax" and "defense". (both of these I use most
often when I am driving a car). (the latter is often used at football games,
too...but that's the hayoka in me talkin) As for the
existance/reality/mentality of the Gods/Goddesses...well, I experiance things
that I can't explain by any other way then by saying "it exists...it feels
so real." It doesn't happen very often, but when it does...it pours.
I mean, sure, it could be a delusion or something. (I used to be an atheist
and an agnostic for a bit...my aditude is constantly shifting by situation
and experiance...so I tend to be kinda flakey in terms of explaining my
beliefs...because I hold so many that don't always mesh...due to reality and
my experiance)
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snowth
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response 23 of 37:
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Mar 31 04:18 UTC 1998 |
(Life? What's that? :)
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font
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response 24 of 37:
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Apr 1 07:47 UTC 1998 |
Ummm...................<>
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