kami
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Aug 10 02:02 UTC 2005 |
Great question!
What's the reason for your interest?
Funny thing- when I was about 13 or 14, I had an opportunity to learn more
about it, but I felt that it would be unwise and unsafe, as I wasn't at all
well "grounded", so I sort of set myself a block against it. I can see pretty
far "around a corner" as I am, but I've never learned to really *go* anywhere.
Might be a useful skill and learning tool. It'll come around, in its proper
time.
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kami
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Aug 14 04:33 UTC 2005 |
Dunno about exactly, but my understanding is that astral travel is when your
consciousness leaves your body- intentionally, by preference- and is able to
visit other locations within the physical world. It may also include
excursions to other levels or "planes" of awareness. People commonly report
being aware of a silver chord which connects their spirit to their body while
traveling.
I miss anything?
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cyklone
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Aug 14 13:15 UTC 2005 |
I've had psychic experiences where I saw the face of someone I'd never
seen before in real life, and then actually met the person. I also
recently had an "out of body" experience where I suddenly saw myself
looking down on my body and later watched as I reentered my body. It was a
real jolt to go from a third person perspective to being aware I was in my
body and feeling the "spirit" reenter my body a moment later.
So is one or both of those examples astral travel? It seems to me that
many ESP events, could be explained by astral travel even if we aren't
conscious of how we came to acquire the knowledge of the person or event.
OTOH, it also seems to me that a more conscious awareness, or at least
recollection, of movement would be a better way to define astral travel.
Which I guess is what your last sentence implies. However, the part about
leaving our body intentionally or by preference would seem exclude all of
my experiences. I have yet to develop much control over this kind of
thing. It's more like "Well, this is certainly an interesting ride I find
myself on!" The only exception is "lucid" dreaming, where I've had some
minor success training myself to believe that even if I hear another
person or band playing music in my dream, it's still "my" song and I
should try to remember it when I wake up.
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kami
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Aug 14 23:47 UTC 2005 |
Neat, Cyklone!
The first example, of seeing someone's face, would be described as
"clairvoyance". That is, literally, "clear seeing". Now, did you end up seeing
this person later, physically? Or is it someone you might have seen in the
media or in a friend's photo album? They are different sorts of connections.
The second experience- of seeing your own body- is pretty classic astral
travel. Had you intended it, or are you aware of what triggered the "journey"?
No, what I meant by "other planes of awareness" is that, in some cases (most?)
of astral travel, we visit familiar people or places, or at least common
physical locations. In other examples, we may experience the "astral plane"
or the "akashic (sp?) records" or other non-physical levels of reality. They
might be experienced as sound, or shadow, or light, or abstract shapes, or
"seeing angels" or other unusual states. Now, how that's different from lucid
dreaming, I can't tell you- it's just that people who experience it,
especially by intention- know that it's different.
I like your experience with lucid dreaming. Good start!
You can learn to control your traveling- both when/whether you go, and where
you go. patience.
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