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omni
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The South Africa item
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Apr 27 20:52 UTC 1994 |
With the elections in South Africa happening, for the next few days
what in your opnion, can lie in S.A's future?
in short, let's talk about South Africa here.
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jason242
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response 1 of 23:
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Apr 27 21:24 UTC 1994 |
BLOODSHED. The whites don't like the blacks and vice-versa, they should
just split from each other.
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cicero
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response 2 of 23:
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Apr 28 05:32 UTC 1994 |
They can't split--They all live there to try to set up separate black
and white states will only lead to worse violence in the future. Then you
will have to racist states next to each other instead of one non-racist
state (albiet full of racist people.) I think what they are doing is
the best course.
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jason242
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response 3 of 23:
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Apr 28 19:20 UTC 1994 |
until they grow up and learn to gert along they are just gonna keep killing
each other. from my best understanding, neither side wants anything to do
with the other. The only problem I can see in splitting is who gets the
gold mines. then again, I'm for the US splitting too. You don't put
enemies in the same room with the hope that they'll kiss and make up, thats
a solution for a childs problem.
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danr
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response 4 of 23:
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Apr 30 18:29 UTC 1994 |
An even bigger problem will be th tribal warfare between Nkatha (Zulus)
and the group represented by the ANC (don't know their tribal name).
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jason242
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response 5 of 23:
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Apr 30 21:00 UTC 1994 |
Good point. They just have way too many factions.
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carson
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response 6 of 23:
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May 1 04:07 UTC 1994 |
if they are going to fight and kill each other and not convert themselves
to our oh-so-correct state of mind, what's wrong so wrong with that? Watch
them die.
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danr
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response 7 of 23:
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May 2 02:24 UTC 1994 |
I would hope that some agreement could be reached without resorting
to a massacre.
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carson
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response 8 of 23:
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May 2 02:28 UTC 1994 |
The only problem with hoping for an agreement is that sometimes we end up
waiting for CENTURIES, with only more people brought into the world to
die. Even if there is an "agreement", it's rarely anything universally
accepted (I think the Middle East makes a good example of this), which
leaves its longetivity rather short. On the other hand, if these people
that we think are so wrong in their hatred and beliefs do kill each other
off, and do so quite conclusively, we won't have to watch them fight anymore.
If my thinking is WAY off, feel free to say so. It's late, but it makes
sense to me.
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danr
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response 9 of 23:
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May 3 00:49 UTC 1994 |
I think the problem with that line of reasoning is that rarely do
the perpetrators of genocide do a complete job. Those that survive
rise up after a number of years and begin the cycle all over again.
So, are we doomed to one tragedy after another?
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jason242
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response 10 of 23:
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May 3 02:40 UTC 1994 |
So it would be better if they did the job fully?
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tnt
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response 11 of 23:
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May 3 05:18 UTC 1994 |
In the first known case this century, a cougar (or was it a mountain
lion) in its home environment killed some woman out in California. Instead
of having a trial, conviction/rehabilitation, the creature *believed* (they
wouldn't know for sure until the necropsy) to have killed her was immediately
located & killed.
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srw
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response 12 of 23:
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May 4 06:17 UTC 1994 |
Thank goodness they were able to track it. An animal like that can never
be allowed to roam the park once that has happened. They had to destroy it.
Why is this in the Soth Africa item?
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jason242
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response 13 of 23:
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May 4 19:54 UTC 1994 |
Thats what I was wondering
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carson
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response 14 of 23:
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May 4 20:46 UTC 1994 |
re #12, 13: I think the point being made is that Americans have a double
standard when it comes to whose attitudes can be changed.
Apparently the authorities in that part of California felt that
the cougar (whether it actually did take a life or not is still
questionable) was a murderer and deserved to die. On the other
hand, most Americans seem to think that now that South Africa has
had "free" elections and the government is in the control of a
racist majority rather than a racist minority, that every thing
will be OK there.
...unless Hoolie had something even better in mind... :)
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jason242
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response 15 of 23:
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May 4 23:06 UTC 1994 |
Maybe I'm just real dense but could you please draw the parrallels a little
more bluntly. I'm not sure what killing a potential threat to society has
to do with a racist state. Note: I am not in favor of killing the cougar,
but that is drift.
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other
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response 16 of 23:
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May 11 06:06 UTC 1994 |
I foresee a brief honeymoon period, probably conclding with the death of
Mandela (by assassination likely as not) followed by a period of intense
revenget- taking against the white minority in South Africa, combined with a
Balkan-like tribal power struggle. This entire situation will be fueled by the
opportunism of western arms manufacturers and brokers. The whole situation is
yet another proof of the fallacy of human civilization.
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carson
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response 17 of 23:
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May 11 20:51 UTC 1994 |
it's amazing that we can accept the trading of racist minority rule for a
racist majority rule as justice.
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jason242
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response 18 of 23:
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May 11 22:27 UTC 1994 |
Who's this "we", white boy?
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carson
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response 19 of 23:
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May 12 06:32 UTC 1994 |
(checks jason242 for the shoe size of his mouth)
um.. the American public, perhaps?
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other
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response 20 of 23:
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May 12 22:48 UTC 1994 |
ROTFDFL!!!
(nudge, nudge, carson! :)
Only those whose position makes them incapable of objectivity in this
issue call this justice, but it is not fully established that your description
fits the case.....yet.
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aweiss
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response 21 of 23:
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May 18 02:23 UTC 1994 |
I certainly don't see this as justice, yet. There is always work
to be done, especially in a situation like S. Africa. Mandela has been
working at stopping racism on the part of the new parties in power. There
will certainly be problems but you're painting the situation as hopeless,
which it certainly isn't.
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oburgos
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response 22 of 23:
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May 21 23:09 UTC 1994 |
It was time that a pacifist like Mandela reachs the presiden{ce of S. a.
Better times wait for that country.{
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carson
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response 23 of 23:
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May 24 06:33 UTC 1994 |
(A PACIFIST LIKE MANDELA?!? SINCE WHEN HAS THAT RACIST S.O.B. BEEN A
"pacifist"?!? HE'S CERTAINLY NOT THE SORT OF "pacifist" I THINK OF WHEN I
THINK OF PACIFISTS!!!)
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