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krj
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Detroit Tigers - late season 2006
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Aug 16 22:17 UTC 2006 |
While the Other System is down, here's an item to track progress
of the Detroit Tigers in their Season to Remember.
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albaugh
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response 1 of 71:
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Aug 17 19:27 UTC 2006 |
Well, we'll see how they respond with Polanco out. (I haven't heard how long
he'll be on the DL.) I'm hoping that they win at least 100 games. I
personally would like to see them win 105+ games, to overtake the 1984 team.
But I have doubts now that they can accomplish that.
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cyklone
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response 2 of 71:
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Aug 17 22:07 UTC 2006 |
Right now they are one game better, at this point in the season, than were
the 84 Tigers.
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jep
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response 3 of 71:
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Aug 17 22:22 UTC 2006 |
Polanco is the best contact hitter on the team, but he's hardly
unreplaceable. Omar Infante is a very good young player. He has more
power than Polanco, and in many ways is a better hitter. I am looking
forward to seeing him get some more innings.
All year, this team has responded well to their moments of adversity,
few though those have been. I think they will do so again. When Maroth
went down, Zach Miner stepped right in. When Dmitri Young was on the DL
for several months, Chris Shelton started out with a superstar season.
By the time he faded hopelesly, Young came back and has been strong.
*And* Sean Casey has done well, too. The Tigers got him for a not very
promising Double-A player.
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ric
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response 4 of 71:
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Aug 18 02:29 UTC 2006 |
How about that homer that Brent Clevland hit in Fenway wednesday night? Holy
cow that ball was hit a long way!
Tigers picked up a nice win tonight over the Rangers 4-2, with Kenny Rogers
getting the win. Joel Zumaya walked a run in after Rogers loaded the bases
with nobody out, but then proceeded to mow down the Rangers and got 6 straight
outs (I think). Numerous strikeouts. I get giddy when he pitches, I may need
to seek help.
Jones actually looked really good tonight too.. for once he made it look easy.
Although Polanco was a great contact hitter, Sean Casey is also a great
contact hitter. Polanco is an asset, but John is right, he's not
irreplaceable. It's definately a loss - Infante simply doesn't hit as well
as Polanco does.
However, if you look at on base percentage:
Polanco - .325
Infante - .314
That's like getting on base one more time every 100 at bats.
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Chicago won today so they keep pace at 6.5 games out. Minnota lost and is
now 8.5 games back. Boston was idle and sits 2 games behind Chicago.
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Speaking of Boston, have you had enough hype about the Red Sox-Yankees series
yet? 5 games starting with a day night doubleheader tomorrow. i think the
Yankees are LIKELY to win *at leat* 3 of these games, maybe 4.
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Finally, let's talk about "magic numbers".
Detroit's magic number for eliminating Kansas City from the central division
title, is 5.
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cyklone
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response 5 of 71:
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Aug 18 02:41 UTC 2006 |
I was talking to someone from KC not too long ago and we reminisced about
the 84 Tigers. Back then KC was about the only team that played the Tigers
tough every game. Not like this year.
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albaugh
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response 6 of 71:
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Aug 18 16:33 UTC 2006 |
Don't underestimate the value of Polanco to the team! At the same time, do
not underestimate the ability of the Tigers to compenstate for adversity.
I still haven't heard how bad Polanco's injury is, but with talk such as
"he may be back by the end of the season" it sounds like it's bad enough...
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ric
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response 7 of 71:
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Aug 18 18:22 UTC 2006 |
I've heard he'll be out 8 weeks probably, which would put him past the end
of the season, but I suppose he could return for the World Series. =)
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albaugh
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response 8 of 71:
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Aug 18 18:25 UTC 2006 |
All for falling the wrong way... :-(
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krj
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response 9 of 71:
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Aug 19 00:19 UTC 2006 |
Caught a bit of the Thursday game on WXYT and the broadcaster was saying
that Zumaya's fastballs were measuring over 100 mph, which the broadcaster
was claiming was nearly impossible for anyone to hit.
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ric
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response 10 of 71:
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Aug 19 01:33 UTC 2006 |
It's not impossible to hit, but it is nearly impossible to hit WELL.
I've seen guys sitting on a 2-0 count *KNOWING* damn well they're gonna get
a fastball right down the middle, and they still can't catch up to it. I've
seen him hit 102mph.
The he follows it up with an unhittable 85mph curveball.
Opponents are only batting like .160 against him.
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ric
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response 11 of 71:
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Aug 19 01:41 UTC 2006 |
Tigers wasted a good pitching performance tonight by failing to hit. They
also wasted a leadoff triple in the 9th by Craig Monroe but couldn't score
him. Young, Ordonez, and Guillen *ALL* grounded out. :(
2-1 Texas
Good outing by Miner.. he went 6 strong, gave up 2 runs, then the bullpen came
in and kept the rangers off the bases for the remaining 3 innings.
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jep
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response 12 of 71:
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Aug 19 02:56 UTC 2006 |
At least 3/4 of major league hitters can hit a fastball, thrown at any
speed, if they know a fastball is coming. Geez, these guys are major
league hitters! They didn't get there by random selection.
Verlander got beat two days ago because he couldn't throw curveballs and
changeups for strikes. He threw several 100 mph fastballs that night.
Zumaya is going to kill himself as a major league pitcher if he keeps
throwing so many fastballs. I think 20 of 26 of his pitches were 100
mph fastballs. Anyone remember Matt Anderson?
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ric
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response 13 of 71:
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Aug 19 13:35 UTC 2006 |
I don't agree with you at all. 3/4 of major league hitters CANNOT hit a 100
mph fastball consistently, even if they know it's coming.
*MOST* of Verlander's fastballs run in the mid 90s.
I remember Matt Anderson, who was all hype but *NEVER* did anything really
worthwhile in the majors. With the exception of 2001, his strikeouts to walks
ratio was never great, and batters pretty close to one hit per inning off him.
Zumaya is having a better year this year than Matt Anderson *EVER* did.
Anderson was also a reliever for his entire minor league career. HE was
fragile to start with. Zumaya is much more durable, and was a starter for
all but one game in his minor league career, starting 77 of 78 appearances.
Zumaya's fastball has more LIFE than Anderson's fastball, and Zumaya has at
least some confidence in his curve ball. But he knows where his bread and
butter is.
You say 3/4 of major league hitters can hit a fastball - that's true. But
3/4 of them can't hit a 100mph fastball with life consistently - or even some
of the time. "occassionally" maybe. The other 1/4 can't hit him at all.
Zumaya threw that 2-0 pitch and everyone in the ballpark - including the
batter - knew it was gonna be a fastball. They just can't get the wood on
it.
There's a reason batters are only hitting .165 against him.
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jep
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response 14 of 71:
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Aug 19 14:33 UTC 2006 |
Zumaya is not getting hit because he has other pitches besides his fastball.
No one can get a hit from any pitch 100% of the time, but major league
hitters can usually get their bat on the baseball if they know a
fastball is coming. If they can get their bat on the ball, they have a
much better chance of getting a hit.
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ric
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response 15 of 71:
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Aug 20 15:58 UTC 2006 |
He has other pitches which he only used 6 out of 26 times the other night as
you said :)
I'll concede that 3/4 of major league hitters can get their bat on a 100mph
fastball - even if they know it's coming.
I'm just arguing that MOST of the time when facing Zumaya, those bat-on-ball
scenarios are simply *NOT* hits.
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Tigers lost a tough one last night, in which an error by Infante led to two
unearned runs, giving Texas the 3-1 win
Texas scored 3 runs on only 2 hits. That's right, Robertson allows only 2
hits through 8 innings, and that's all the hits they got. Painful.
They'd better win today. Chicago won yesterday and is back to 5.5 games
behind. Detroit is only 3-7 in their last 10.
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ric
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response 16 of 71:
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Aug 20 20:21 UTC 2006 |
Another close game loss today :( That's 3 in a row, and only 3 wins in their
last 12 games. STop the bleeding!
Now we've got a HUGE 4 game series against the White Sox. We're still gonna
be in first place when it's done but I'd prefer to be in better shape than
we are now, and not worse shape.
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ric
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response 17 of 71:
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Aug 21 12:35 UTC 2006 |
I looked up the word "fading" in the dictionary today and saw that it's
actually a synonym for "Boston Red Sox"
The Red Sox are on the verge of being swept in a 5 game series, and could fall
to 7 games back in the loss column if they lose again Today, or move up to
5 games back in the loss column if they win. Either way the prospects aren't
good for the Red Sox.
They're also 4 games behind Chicago and games behind Minnesota in the wild
card race.
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albaugh
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response 18 of 71:
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Aug 21 20:19 UTC 2006 |
Tigers sucked big time on Sunday - built a 6-0 lead with 6 runs in the 2nd
inning, but then couldn't score a signle damn run the rest of the game.
On a day where he actually got great run support, Bonderman stank up the place
by giving all 6 runs back. Then in came Grilli, and that's a sign that all
hope is lost. :-(
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jep
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response 19 of 71:
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Aug 21 21:02 UTC 2006 |
The Yankees completed a 5 game sweep of Boston today, beating the Red
Sox 2-1.
The Yankees are now the #2 team in the American League; 3.5 games in
back of Detroit.
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ric
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response 20 of 71:
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Aug 22 02:13 UTC 2006 |
Make that 4 games, the Tigers just soundly trounced the White Sox 7-1.
We improve to a 6.5 game lead (6 games in the loss column)
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ric
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response 21 of 71:
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Aug 22 14:22 UTC 2006 |
It hasn't been mentioned yet but the Tigers acquired Neifi Perez from the Cubs
in exchange for Lakeland catcher Chris Robinson, whom the Cubs GM referred
to as an "oustanding defensive catcher".
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Andrew Miller made his professional debut at Class A Lakeland the other day.
He pitched one inning, gave up no hits, no walks, struck out two, and hit a
batter.
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jep
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response 22 of 71:
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Aug 22 14:44 UTC 2006 |
The ball game yesterday was wonderful. It's just what the Tigers
needed; a relatively easy win, with good hitting and good pitching.
They solidly beat the White Sox and their best pitcher, Jose Contreras.
The Tigers are 4-9 now against Chicago. They have 6 more games to play,
so they could possibly finish with a season-long winning record. That
would be wonderful. Detroit has had an inferiority complex against the
White Sox all year because they're the World Series champs and because
they've won most of the games. It's unlikely, though. But everything
this team has accomplished this year has been unlikely. I kind of
expect 6 straight wins at this point.
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albaugh
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response 23 of 71:
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Aug 22 18:38 UTC 2006 |
The Tigers won't beat the White Sox the last 6 games of their head to head.
If they can play the even at this point, that would be satisfactory for me.
This 4-game series at home, if they come out of it 2-2, that would be
satisfactory. 3-1 would be better, of course, and 4-0 would be delightful
but highly unlikely.
With a record of 80-45 at this point, all the Tigers need to do to reach 100
wins is go 20-17, which is just a bit over .500, and entirely achieveable.
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ric
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response 24 of 71:
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Aug 23 02:56 UTC 2006 |
WE'VE GOT 81 WINS!
That means the Tigers will *NOT* have a losing season this year. HOORAY!
Tigers played a great game tonight, with superb pitching from Kenny Rogers,
who went 7 innings, allowing 4 hits and a walk. Fernando Rodney pitched 2
innings to complete the shutout.
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