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viper2
Slutty Phases Mark Unseen   May 16 17:33 UTC 2002

So are you going through your slutty phase?  What is your slutty phase?  Does
everyone have a slutty phase?  Are you ever not in a slutty phase?
129 responses total.
phenix
response 1 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 16 19:15 UTC 2002

slut? naw. dawg. i'm a playah
viper2
response 2 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 16 19:23 UTC 2002

humm looks like this didn't come up right (hate using bbs at work)
We were talking about people's slutty phases in party today.  Just wondering
what everyone's opinions on slutty phases is?  Does everyone go through one?
Do some people ever phase out of theirs etc...
viper2
response 3 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 16 19:24 UTC 2002

Of course you are greg ;)

Is there a difference between being a player and a slut? other than just
gender?
phenix
response 4 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 16 21:34 UTC 2002

not really. well yha.
a playah vs. slut is like gormet vs. gormond
lelande
response 5 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 16 22:54 UTC 2002

i want pussy.
for free.
cyklone
response 6 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 16 23:45 UTC 2002

Don't we all
jazz
response 7 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 16 23:55 UTC 2002

        A true player succeeds because of quality, but a slut succeeds because
of quanitity.
senna
response 8 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 17 00:56 UTC 2002

That's an interesting way to look at it.  I think a lot of people never go
through slutty phases, playah phases, or other phases that emphasize
promiscuity, and the difference is probably as much environmental as anything
else.  YOu get the right combination of noncommittance and collaberative
grouping, and there you go.
oval
response 9 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 17 02:36 UTC 2002

a slut just wants sex, doesn't care about the other person's personality, or
the experience itself - just wants someone to get them off or vice versa..

mynxcat
response 10 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 17 07:28 UTC 2002

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jazz
response 11 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 17 17:20 UTC 2002

        The way I think of it, a playah is generally only particular about the
more superficial things, and more what their relationships look like than what
they actually are.  But your mileage may vary.

        I was thinking about what qualities are really important to me
yesterday.  I'd like to think that I prefer emotionally stable, but, for
instance, I know I've compromised on that many times - if they're cute enough,
then personality flaws are quirks and damage can actually be incredibly
attractive.  I won't compromise on being able to talk intelligently with a
partner, though, or being able to actually go out rather than stay home.
viper2
response 12 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 17 18:38 UTC 2002

see I totally dont' see playah as someon who looks for quality... most of the
people around my area who call themselves playah's are guys who just want to
go out with (and sleep with if possible) as many women as they can...
I recently just stopped dating a guy who was a self-proclaimed playah.  He
was seeing who knows how many women, but was trying to pretend like he
wasn't..  I told him flat out I ddint' mind being number 2 or 3 on his list
but I wasn't going to be number 120. So to me a playah is someone like him
who just wanted to date as many people as possible with little regard to the
actual person.
A slut I see as someone who uses sex to get what they want... as well as for
entertainment. *shrugs* just my views which are obviously skewed by my
environment =P
jaklumen
response 13 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 17 21:44 UTC 2002

It's odd to see the term 'boy slut' on teen mag covers, but hey, if 
the society considers the word bent to the female gender, so be it.  
(Hard to explain "male chauvinist" by that same logic, though.)

What's the difference between a player and a hater (ok, playah and 
hatah in Ebonic spelling) really?  Hip-hop artists seem to use the 
terms rather interchangeably.  For that matter, what *is* a dog/dawg, 
then?
emblem
response 14 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 19 16:01 UTC 2002

or foo (fool)?  heh   as far as sluts go, a girl can be in a slut phase but
not a slut....i think.....
maybe im just confused in this mixed up fucked up world we all live in....

crazy people...    ;p
jazz
response 15 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 19 18:07 UTC 2002

        I've never seen the terms used interchangably - player-haters and
players are on the opposite sides of the fence, 'far as I can tell.
senna
response 16 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 19 23:45 UTC 2002

Naturally, "playah" and "slut" tends to be a gender-specific term,
free-thinking magazines or otherwise.  Thus, the definitions are sexist.
orinoco
response 17 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 20 05:42 UTC 2002

I'm not sure if I agree with that.  If I call a man a player, everyone knows
what I'm saying -- I'm saying he gets around, but I'm also hinting that he's
skillful with a pickup line, good in bed, and in control of whatever situation
he's in.  If I call him a slut, again, everyone knows what I'm saying -- and
it's not the same thing.  Calling him a slut, I'm hinting that he only gets
play because he has low standards, and that he lets himself be used because
he likes it.  

Same thing goes for women.  I don't hear many women called players, but I've
heard that usage a few times, and everyone's understood what it meant.  

If more men are called sluts, and more women are called players, that's
because our assumptions about sex are sexist, not because there's anything
wrong with the terms.
senna
response 18 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 20 13:14 UTC 2002

That's the point, it's all determined by our usage and emphasis of the words.
The application is rather uneven, still.
jazz
response 19 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 20 17:18 UTC 2002

        It's not necessarily sexist to say that the same behaviour is okay in
one gender, and not in another, when members of that gender have different
roles to play.
edina
response 20 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 20 20:27 UTC 2002

Ok - I'm going through a phase where I am involved with several people, not
all sexually.  It's not a permanent thing.
jazz
response 21 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 20 23:24 UTC 2002

        Not all ... heh ...
viper2
response 22 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 21 14:04 UTC 2002

I don't argue that we have different roles to play in society, but I do 
think that it is unacceptable (not necessairly sexist) to say it is ok 
for men to sleep around and not ok for women.  

Firstly, if women don't sleep around then who are all the men sleeping 
with?

Secondly, though we do have different roles in society it doesn't mean 
we are on different levels in society.  Women have been second class 
citizens in the past and that is no longer the case. 
jazz
response 23 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 21 17:03 UTC 2002

        The argument I'm putting forth - which may or may not be as a devil's
advocate - is that, in a very real sense, there is still a marked gender
difference.  Men generally pursue women.  Therefore, the implications of a
man not being discriminatory are different than a woman's not being
discriminatory, in the same way that the implications of a man not going out
and pursuing someone are different from the implications of a woman not doing
so.

        It's not quite a right versus wrong issue;  but it is fair to say that
if the burden of discrimination should be the same, then the burden of pursuit
should too, and that isn't happening.
phenix
response 24 of 129: Mark Unseen   May 21 17:22 UTC 2002

salon.com has an interesting article on that today
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