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kerouac
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The New Star Trek Movie...what to call it?
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Apr 7 01:02 UTC 1996 |
The New Star Trek Movie...what to call it?
This is related to a discussion ongoing in one of the star trek usenet
groups. The next Star Trek movie is due out at Thanksgiving, and is
currently in production. It was to be called Star Trek: Resurrections,
and directed by Jonathan Frakes. But the name was appropriated by
Paramount to use as the title for the forthcoming Alien sequel. Now they
are looking for a new name (the studio that is) and are soliciting
on-line suggestions. The current working title is Star Trek: Generations
II, but that is likely to change with Star Trek: Destinies the most
talked about possibility:
Rumored storyline:
Peace in the galaxy is shattered when through the wormhole at deep space
nine comes the mother ship of the Borg race, carrying the all-powerful
queen borg. Leaving death and destruction in their midst, the Borg are
heading straight for Earth, with one goal in mind. Re-assimilate Locutus
of Borg (Jean-Luc Picard, ties in with an ST:TNG episode)
So the Federation goes to all out war with the Borg, assembling the
strongest fleet of starships, led by the new Enterprise (ncc1701-e).
to protect the earth. Further complicating matters is that the
Federation is now also at war with the Klingons.
It becomes apparent that the Borg, once they find and re-assimilate
Picard, intend to wipe out the earth and all life in the galaxy. In
order to prevent this, Riker is named captain of the new Enterprise to
lead the fight against the Borg, and Picard time travels to the past in
an effort to avoid assimilation and find the secret of the Borg. The
Borg will not destroy the galaxy until they have re-assimilated Picard.
Anyway...thats the essentials...sounds like a good story, all thats
needed is a name. Star Trek:Assimilation? Star Trek: Re-Generations?
Star Trek: The Wrath of the Borg? What suggestions do you have?
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scott
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response 1 of 51:
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Apr 7 03:09 UTC 1996 |
Er, are we on odd or even? 'Cause all the odd episodes sucked. ;)
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matthew
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response 2 of 51:
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Apr 7 04:49 UTC 1996 |
Well it's the second Next Generation movie, but the ninth Star Trek movie.
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aruba
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response 3 of 51:
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Apr 7 08:24 UTC 1996 |
No, it's the 8th Star Trek movie. Generations was #7.
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albaugh
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response 4 of 51:
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Apr 7 09:55 UTC 1996 |
Sorry - I hate the overuse of time travel as a plot device...
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drew
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response 5 of 51:
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Apr 7 15:47 UTC 1996 |
It is overused. But with unrestricted FTL, what does one expect?
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gregc
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response 6 of 51:
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Apr 7 16:12 UTC 1996 |
I'm wondering if this is a hoax script. Since the advent of the internet,
the studios have been "leaking" fake scripts to obsfucate what the real
story is. The problems I have with the above are:
1.) Picard goes back in time *again*? They used that as the device for
the 2-parter at the end of the series and in the first Gnerations
movie. Not to mention the other movie with the whales. It's a
really overdone idea, and I'd think Bernman and Pillar would know that.
2.) The "queen" borg? Oh, come on! The borg have been portrayed as very
much a mechanistic culture. Everyone is a cog in the machine. The
idea of any kind of a hierarchal structure doesn't make any sense.
They've done a good job designing this species so far, I'd hate to
think they'd blow it with such a dumb mistake.
So how about: _Star Trek: Deceptions_
Tag line: "Plot is irrelevant, common sense is futile, your cash
will be assimilated."
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kerouac
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response 7 of 51:
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Apr 7 22:50 UTC 1996 |
The script I was referring to is available for reading
in its entirety: www.primenet.com/~robhood/nextrek.html Generally you
can tell from the writing whether a script was professionally done. The
script for the "Generations" movie leaked on the 'net months in advance
and everyone said it was a hoax, but it was the real deal.
There have been conflicting reports about the time travel. The latest
faq about the movie on usenet suggests that it is the Borg who travel
back in time to the time of the founding of the Federation, to assimilate
Zephraim Cochrane (the inventer of the warp drive), so as to prevent him
from making space travel possible. The other story is that it is Picard
who seeks out Cochrane to find answers on how to defeat the Borg.
Supposedly, the main villians will be played by Christopher Walken and
Yaphet Kotto, with Emma Thompson as Picard's love interest that he
encounters in the past, and Joan Collins as the Queen Borg (who was in
"City on the Edge of Forever" (SOS), the best time travel episode in my
opinion in any of the series)
Rumors are also flying that a major character dies at the end of the film
(specifically the rumor is that Picard will die, since Patrick Stewart
may want out of Trek after this, in favor of more challenging film
projects) This may be why all the versions floating around have Riker
being promoted to Captain of the new Enterprise and Picard promoted to
Commodore and assigned command of Starfleet (ignoring Kirk's advice not
to accept promotion)
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matthew
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response 8 of 51:
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Apr 8 03:20 UTC 1996 |
We probably wont know if the script is real until the movie hits the theaters.
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albaugh
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response 9 of 51:
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Apr 8 05:01 UTC 1996 |
I guess I should clarify my feelings on time travel: All told, I *still*
think it is overused as a plot device. That said, however, I'm more tolerant
of it when it comes about due to some uncontrollable outside force/mechanism,
as opposed to something the ST'ers bring about themselves. Thus, in the
TNG wrapup, it was Q that was doing the time shifting for Picard, and in
Generations 1 the movie it was Picard & Kirk being caught in the whatever-
it-was called (vortex?) that allowed them to exit to a particular point in
time. Whereas in ST:TMP #4, it was the ST'ers themselves traveling in the
Klingon ship that put themselves back in time by flying at the sun etc.
I can accept the former cases a lot easier than the latter. Just a
preference...
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aruba
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response 10 of 51:
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Apr 8 18:46 UTC 1996 |
"nexus"
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scott
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response 11 of 51:
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Apr 9 01:19 UTC 1996 |
Joan Collins as the Queen Borg? That might be interesting, or amusing, or
awful, or improbable....
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gregc
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response 12 of 51:
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Apr 9 16:16 UTC 1996 |
Agreed. The list of actors makes this sound even *more* hokey.
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kerouac
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response 13 of 51:
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Apr 10 00:42 UTC 1996 |
I was only quoting the faq from rec.arts.startrek.current...believe
what you will
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scott
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response 14 of 51:
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Apr 14 15:05 UTC 1996 |
(and I might add that one of the episodes that I use as reference as to how
back TNG got in the last couple seasons also has Borg with personalities.
It sucked.)
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robh
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response 15 of 51:
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Apr 14 16:28 UTC 1996 |
Is that the one with Lore in it? It was a horrible episode, but
no worse than the rest of the last few seasons. >8(
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scott
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response 16 of 51:
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Apr 14 22:57 UTC 1996 |
No, that was the one that set up the Lore as Borg leader episode.
Synopsis: Scot says: "The recent episodes have sucked. If they only brought
back the Borg, that would be a cool episode". The episode that brings back
the Borg: "A wrecked Borg ship is found, with one survivor, a teenaged Borg.
He is befriended by the crew and eventually released, with the idea that his
newly learned individuality will change the Borg for the better"
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robh
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response 17 of 51:
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Apr 15 01:44 UTC 1996 |
It's the new Tim Burton movie, "Hugh Scissorhands"!
Watch Winona Ryder as Counselor Troi, empathizing with Hugh!
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matthew
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response 18 of 51:
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Apr 15 07:25 UTC 1996 |
ROTFL !
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bru
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response 19 of 51:
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Apr 16 16:07 UTC 1996 |
Ummm. They have a cure for the borg. Remember? They didn't give it to
Hugh as they had planned. Combat with the borg should be breif. Also, since
all the Borg who attacked earth are dead, how does the queen borg find out
about Picard, how do they know to combat the sleep command, The borg are
weak...
Will Hugh and his followers fight with the federation, what will the Klingons
and Romulans, and Cardassians do? DS9 must be assimilated, right.
Adn what about Voyager...?
Be better if they brought back the parasites.
Really.
They are an unknown.
They are capable and devious.
They are hard to detect.
They are a loose end int he series.
They would have a queen, who would be aware of Picard, and they want to
assimilate us.
It just ain't the Borg.
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aruba
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Apr 16 17:35 UTC 1996 |
Do you mean the parasites from the second-to-last episode of the first
season? I agree, I always thought they should bring them back. They were
a good enemy.
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kerouac
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response 21 of 51:
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Apr 17 01:06 UTC 1996 |
From what I hear, the Borg that they encountered in the epsidoes of the
series are like offspring of the queen borg. When hugh was converted
part of the Borg was lost so the Queen Borg comes looking for it, to
re-assimilate all the pieces, not just Hugh but Picard, since he was
assimilated into the Borg at one point.
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robh
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response 22 of 51:
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Apr 18 17:52 UTC 1996 |
This item has been linked from Sci-Fi 80 to Intro 10.
Type "join scifi" or "join sf" at the Ok: prompt for
discussion on science fiction literature, television,
movies, conventions, and so on.
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bubu
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response 23 of 51:
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Apr 19 20:24 UTC 1996 |
i think the New Movie should be an invasion of Earth by Tribbles...
Or maybe they could attack the Klingon Home World....
Cause ya know..Klingons hat Tribbles and Tribbles hate Klingons...
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scott
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Apr 19 21:47 UTC 1996 |
Cool idea! Who plays the Queen Tribble? ;)
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