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mneme
Whatcha Reading? Mark Unseen   Sep 22 03:57 UTC 1994

CBIP: Name of the Rose (Okay, so it's not SF; it's cool anyway)
LBR:  The WInter Prince (very nice Authurian book written as a ltetter
from Medraut to his mother.  More Monmouth's  (Georffrey; spelling)
Arthur than Mallory's, and some wonderful stylistic games, but don't
read the blurb; it consists of a summary of the book.  A very
complete, very good summary.  Read it for some interesting insight
AFTER your read the book.
ORCB: Little Big, Bimbos of the Death Sun, Swords and Ice Magic


In case you haven't figured it out yet, this item is for discussing
books you are reading, want to read, or have read recently, and
discussing books that others bring up in this item, regardless of
whether they fall in those categories for you.
34 responses total.
kentn
response 1 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 16:34 UTC 1994

CBIP = comp.binaries.ibm.pc
LBR = suffix for library archives (usu. Novosielsky CP/M libraries)
 
When you use acronyms, please define them first.  As you can see,
depending on context, some of your acronyms are in common usage
elsewhere with, I assume, different meanings.
 
Thanks.
mneme
response 2 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 18:40 UTC 1994

Please.  Given the context, the acronyms are obvious.  And really, which
one means 'curent book in progress" and which means "last book read"  It's
is inconsequential.  Just as if I complain about the s9ize of my TRQ (about 
1-200 books <sigh>), someone may figured out what the words contained in
the TLA are, and if not; who cares?  The entity I'm talking about is defined
through contex.
kentn
response 3 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 20:47 UTC 1994

Well, the context here is Grex the computer system, as well as the
books you read item...  My point is, and it is backed up all over the
place in writing style guides, that when you use an acronym, even one
you consider common, you need to define it so we're all on a level
playing field.  This is a new item, so I have no context to go on (for
example, previous discussion of "current books in process").  CBIP
appears to me to be a just-invented acronym, which makes the situation
even worse.
  As far as your item goes, how can I respond if I don't know what
categories of books you expect us to discuss?
  As you point out, if we can't figure out what these acronyms are,
"who cares?".  At this point I don't.  I'm forgetting this item.
kami
response 4 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 21:09 UTC 1994

actually, Josh, it really bothers me; I have trouble figuring out even
common acronyms, or remembering ones I don't hear quite frequently, so in
general I try to avoid them entirely. 
Not reading much just now, there's a lot I ought to be.
mneme
response 5 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 22:48 UTC 1994

        The point was that what the acronym meant was redundant
information; the item was created to find out what people are reading
(in SF, of course) and discuss it; had I simply ommited the acronyms,
rather than including them, no one would have misunderstood me; I've
still yet to recieve a response in the item which has anything to do
with the topic, rather than "style points."

        FYI(For your information), the acronyms were borrowed from
common usage on FIDO(not an acronym) SF (Speculative Fiction), along
with TRQ (To Read Quue) and MLAS (Mind like a Sieve) [not to meantion
MLAC [Mind like a a Cadigan/Colander]].  My general approach cryptic
algorithms is to ignore them and just respond to the topic if, after a
few moments, I can't figure them out.  If I really need to find
        
        Really, people; I wanted a discussion, not a half-baked
flamewar over reduntant acronyms.  Anyone want to post names (and,
optionaly, comentary) on books they've read recently?


IWADNAHBFW!


gregc
response 6 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 17:31 UTC 1994

Actually, considering your attitude, no.
robh
response 7 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 17:33 UTC 1994

Nope, not really.  Okay, I'll give you a hint, most of the characters
are dolhpins.
aruba
response 8 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 18:04 UTC 1994

I would guess that's Startide Rising, by David Brin.
robh
response 9 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 19:30 UTC 1994

Mmm, could be...
gregc
response 10 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 05:21 UTC 1994

Or he's rereading _Flipper_. Always going for the classics huh rob? :-)
mrbill
response 11 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 02:25 UTC 1994

q
Quit
dc
response 12 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 14:03 UTC 1994

Would this item include books on tape?
aruba
response 13 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 23:20 UTC 1994

Hi, Damon, Welcome to Grex!
mneme
response 14 of 34: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 21:33 UTC 1994

Sure, it can include books on tame, though they are kinda 
borderline.  I'm still reading Name of the Rose, though 
really should finish it so I can read Carol Stervemer's 
The SSerpent Egg (she's wthe one who co-wrote _Sorcery and 
Cecelia_.).
.s
tiliyn
response 15 of 34: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 00:00 UTC 1994

on acronyms: TAHRGOWTLFIOG, and IBM (this argument has really gone on far too
long for its own good, and its bugging me)

clearly, I'm new here, so hi everyone. and now... to books...
Has anyone read Arthur C. Clarke's semi-new book _Rama Revealed_?
I read the rest of the series and I'm sort of waiting nervously until I see it
in paperback.
aruba
response 16 of 34: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 00:10 UTC 1994

Alls I know is *The Garden of Rama* (the 3rd book) really annoyed me.  I wish
Clarke had never demeaned himself to get invloved with Gentry Lee, rocket
scientist though he may be.  Convicts in Space indeed!
robh
response 17 of 34: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 13:16 UTC 1994

I read _Rendezvous_with_Rama_, and I loved it too much to ruin it
by reading any of the "sequels".
aruba
response 18 of 34: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 01:09 UTC 1994

Good move, Rob, although the second book was tolerable.
mneme
response 19 of 34: Mark Unseen   Oct 3 19:24 UTC 1994

On ETLA's (Extended Three letter acronyms), YOIIH, and IBMT,SISN (Yes, oh,
indeed it has, and it's bugging me too, so I'll stop now).

Haven't read much Clarke, myself, aside from the 2K series.  Is any of it
sutable to a Heinlien and Schmitz "vacuum cleaner" fan who prefers low
fantasy? ;)

What's I've currently got in my to read queue, after Name of the Rose (which 
I'm still reading, as I'm spending to much time reading the net and not 
doing school work (the latter takes a considerable amount of time), is 
Carol Stevermer's _The Serpent's Egg_.  Looks like mannerpunk to me.

Carol IS the one who wrote _Sorcery and Cecilia_ with Patricia C. Wrede, 
isn't she?  S&C is one of thoe more interesting colaberations around, as 
we knw exactly how it was written: Patricia and Carol sent letters in 
character to each other, and then decided to clean it up for publication.
It's quite good, too.

aruba
response 20 of 34: Mark Unseen   Oct 4 22:25 UTC 1994

A lot of Clarke is suitable for Heinlein fans.  Less characterization and
more science, though.  That's neat about _Sorcery and Cecilia_.
mneme
response 21 of 34: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 21:32 UTC 1994

I've been prefering more Schmitz and Laferty (when I was reading stuff re
resembling SF) to Heinlien recently, and preocupation on style and character
is why I hold low fantasy to be my favorite subgenre, but I might eventually
read some more clarke, if only to say that I did.
mneme
response 22 of 34: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 21:57 UTC 1994

Oh, and incidentally, I finished Name of the Rose, and Serpent's Egg (which,
while having problems, is IMO, excelent).  And am not currently reading 
anything, but but the unstarted things in my backpack are Connie Willis's
_Lincoln's Dreams_ (Have to read something by the woman eventually), and 
Louise Cooper's Invanta (the third book in her "Indigo" series; allways 
stick tohe classics, I do;^).  Will probably read the trash first; the books
are rather fun, reasonably original, and I've got the six other books 
(two of which are read, of course) on my shelves.  But what I'm really
in the mood for reading Diane Duane's entire Door Into {foo} series, 
including the ones I've read and forgotten, like Door into Fire/Shadow.  Or
a book by Susan Cooper.
mneme
response 23 of 34: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 17:55 UTC 1994

Lincoln's Dreams was strange, and far more "magical Realism" than true SF.
I lost Infanta:(
What I'm currently reading is Octavia Butler's Mind of my Mind, which is quite
nice, kinda reminds more Lafferty's Fourth Mansion (which I loved), though
it's nothing like, really, and is in the same universe as her _Wild Seed_ (
(which is another book which I managed to lose before finishing; should really
aquire another copy).
kami
response 24 of 34: Mark Unseen   Nov 1 02:49 UTC 1994

Good Omens.
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