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mneme
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Filk. Anyone indulge?
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Apr 20 18:54 UTC 1994 |
Anyone here filk?
I tend to preform the stuff rather than write it, but I'm sure there must be
some interesting filkers here, and what with the fido FILK/alt.music.filk
gateway being intermitently down I NEED MY FIX. And meeting some new filkers
(to me) wouldn't hurt either.
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vidar
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response 1 of 55:
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Apr 21 00:08 UTC 1994 |
Filk? Please explain...
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remmers
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response 2 of 55:
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Apr 21 01:06 UTC 1994 |
Speaking from limited knowledge, I think it's folk-style music with
sci-fi content. Please correct me if I'm wrong. (I've never been
to a Con...)
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kentn
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response 3 of 55:
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Apr 21 04:03 UTC 1994 |
Think of it as a folk-style Dr. Demento sing-along with a heavy
sf theme and fannish inside jokes... <goes of humming "You Can
Build a Mainframe From the Things You Find at Home">
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kami
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response 4 of 55:
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Apr 21 04:19 UTC 1994 |
I've heard some filk that was quite serious- Challenger memorials and
romantic ballads. Does that count as "filk" or is it something else? And
what if it has an original tune, too.
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kentn
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response 5 of 55:
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Apr 21 12:27 UTC 1994 |
Yeah, I'd say it's filk. Filk is hard to classify; it does include
serious ballads as well as humourous and punny songs. Music for
all occasions... Not sure what you mean about "original tune" (not
every song on Dr Demento is a parody...); some filk is based on
tunes from other genre, some is completely original. (I guess you
can tell I like the humorous filk better than the serious).
Some filk is inspired by particular sf books, some is topical, some
is sf-related, some fantasy-related, some just plain silly (but fun).
The reason I mentioned Dr. D. in relation to filk is that his
show exhibits the kind of variety in music that I find in filk. (And
I'm sure many filk songs would be completely appropriate for a Dr D
show).
I'm not an expert on this music; I'm just sitting here surrounded
by my wife's filk cassette collection, and have been to several cons
and listened to filk sessions. A couple local (Ann Arbor) filkers
I have heard and like are Mark Bernstein and Tom Smith.
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vidar
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response 6 of 55:
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Apr 22 01:01 UTC 1994 |
Danke Schoen
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kami
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response 7 of 55:
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Apr 22 05:33 UTC 1994 |
Bitte.
I have heard a Leslie Fish song on Dr. D. I thought that was pretty cool.
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mneme
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response 8 of 55:
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Apr 26 02:21 UTC 1994 |
Pretty much, the only inclusive definition of filk is "verbal poetry
preformed at a filksing," including stories&poetry(rarely), and song. It's
usually SF related, and often related to cats, fandom, filkdom, science,
politics, et cetera.
One of the most interesting parts of filkdom is the "parody war" where
a parody will be written about a song (often, but not allways an original
one), and a parody will be written in response to that, with subsequent
songs falling fast behind, especially if more than two get into the act.
I seem to be rather atypical among filkers, as I preform (but do not
write) filks, and far more often do serious songs than humerous ones (though
I admit to having a few of the latter in my repetoir, including the
aformentioned "You can build a mainframe fro the things you find at home."
I can't make head or tails of "Little Teeny Eyes," though.
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kentn
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response 9 of 55:
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Apr 26 14:46 UTC 1994 |
Filk is quite a bit of fun. I don't perform filk, just listen. Anyone
that likes popular and folk music in general (including Dr. Demento-style
parody) should check out filk (there are filk tapes available at virtually
every SF convention and from what I've heard are worth the price).
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mneme
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response 10 of 55:
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Apr 27 15:20 UTC 1994 |
Well, many of them are, anyway; some of my favorites are Leslie Fish, Tom
Smith, Heather Rose Jones, Joey Shoji, etc. Most dealers will let you listen
to a tape before buying it, so get what you think sounds good.
As a preformer, I'm more likey to get a book than a tape, but every
once in a while...
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gregc
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response 11 of 55:
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May 5 16:56 UTC 1994 |
"Filk" is folk music from the Science fiction field and practices that
follow what is know as the "folk tradition". Folk music tends to be
constantly evolving as new people learn a song, incorporate their own style
, add a thing, delete a thing, chance the music , change the words , etc.
Folk music also tends to revolve around come genre or lifestyle or
geographical location. Cowboys wrote folk music about being cowboys,
coal miners wrote folk music about being coal miners, etc.
Science fiction fans wrote folk music about being science fiction fans
and about the stories they liked. The story goes that at some con in the
fities, the advertising flyers had a mispelling of the word "folk" into "filk".
It was just weird, and different enough that it stuck.
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kentn
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response 12 of 55:
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May 5 17:04 UTC 1994 |
Filthy Folk = Filk ?
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bap
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response 13 of 55:
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May 7 13:58 UTC 1994 |
W{e did some filking at a party last night. Had at least four really
good singers there, and a lot of amatuers. Had a lot of fun.
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kami
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response 14 of 55:
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May 9 06:28 UTC 1994 |
Coolness!
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jkrauss
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response 15 of 55:
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Aug 29 00:24 UTC 1994 |
re#13: so filkers write songs about filking?
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mneme
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response 16 of 55:
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Aug 29 03:05 UTC 1994 |
Among other things, yes. Or songs about filkers. It can get pretty
hairy, like "Doppel-entendre," a song by Bob Kanefsky to the tune of
"Doppleganger" (a filksong to an original tune by Kathy Mar), which
expresses, from Kathy's POV, her displeasure at her song "Doppleganger"
being twisted into "Dopple-entendre".
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haven
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response 17 of 55:
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Mar 23 00:55 UTC 1995 |
Well filk is the music that I was rased on. I'm what you would refer to as
a "filker baby". This is all becouse my dad is Mark Bernstein. I go to filk
sings all the time. Some of the puns that come from those people makes you
wish you had a bag of stones next to you. But it cen get prety sierous at t
times. If there are any filk sings in my area(Ann Arbor) I will post if you
will will like?
But mainly filk is what ever you want it to be. From "Domino Death"
(Tom Smith) to "Lady Hawk". If any one is a contraption '95 I will be there.
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kami
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response 18 of 55:
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Mar 24 21:08 UTC 1995 |
Cool, 'traption looks like fun. Wow, the next generation of fen comes of
age (at least of age to be messing with computers) what ever is the world
coming to...
<g>
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mneme
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Mar 27 04:51 UTC 1995 |
Well hell, Patri ap Cariadoc is online, and the SCA is younger than filk.
How old are you, anyway, Allen? Do you get to cons outside of the
Ann Arbor area? I tend to get to Worldcon, Lunacon, Arisia, and I've been
tempted by the occasional philcon or balticon.
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kami
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response 20 of 55:
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Mar 27 20:08 UTC 1995 |
No dear, I really don't travel for cons. It has become too hard even to
get to SCA events afield. Sigh. Just so much time in a year, and Michael
too tied up with school really to do that much. well, and he's kinda
disillusioned with the SCA- burned out and all. Actually, we're getting more i
into going to Pagan festivals lately. In some ways, they are like the SCA
ten years ago.
Gee, it would be fun to talk with Patri, he's a delightful young man. Hm,
I wonder if Diana Honeyhair (Aelfwine Dunedain's daughter) had email-oh,
yes, I remember getting something from her a long time back. This could
be fun. Let's eavesdrop from our rocking chairs, shall we?...
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gregc
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response 21 of 55:
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Mar 28 02:09 UTC 1995 |
Kami, do not miss Starwood in western New York, end of July.
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mneme
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Mar 28 07:43 UTC 1995 |
Actually, Kami, the questions were more trageted towards Allen than you; I
know you don't ususually travel for science fiction cons, even if you'll travel
to other types I could meantion. What about worldcons How far (if at all)
will you travel for those?
As far as rocking chairs go, I don't think I qualify yet; mabye when
your kids are on the net (how are they, anyway; were neither at Pennsic this
year?), bt not until then.
Greg: what's Starwood? Pagan thang? It rings a bell, but not a loud
one at all.
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robh
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response 23 of 55:
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Mar 28 10:43 UTC 1995 |
Trust me, gregc, kami *never* misses Starwood.
(And yes, it's a pagan thingie.)
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gregc
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response 24 of 55:
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Mar 28 20:56 UTC 1995 |
Interesting, I've been going since 1984, though I missed the last 2 years
because of life/work/stuff. Maybe I've bumped into you guys there?
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