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paulh
Stilyagi Air Corps Email list Mark Unseen   Sep 24 00:19 UTC 1992

The Stilyagi Air Corps is the local Science Fiction fandom group.
Recently I started an email mailing list for announcements and
discussions for or about the group.  If you are interested in joining
the mailing list, send me a request to stilyagi-request@hamjudo.mi.org
Let me know your favorite mailing address.  I will be out of town
for a week, so don't expect a quick reply.
29 responses total.
kentn
response 1 of 29: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 04:30 UTC 1992

Tell us a little more about the group.  Is it just an e-mail type
group or do you hold cons and whatnot?  Where did the name "Stilyagi"
come from?  What sorts of discussions are discussed and what sorts
of announcements are announced?  ;)
matthew
response 2 of 29: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 06:07 UTC 1992

I'm a former member of Stilyagi and a frequnter of conventions.  I ju[C[D
(oops) this conference the other and thought I would make myself known..

popcorn
response 3 of 29: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 14:38 UTC 1992

Welcome to Grex!
matthew
response 4 of 29: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 04:47 UTC 1992

Does anyone know/remeber Hugh Daniels, or any one who works with the
Xanadu project.  If so, do you know of an e-mail address for any of
the above ?
skeez
response 5 of 29: Mark Unseen   Jul 4 15:48 UTC 1993

I Know Huel Perkins, the guy on channel 4 news...Does that count?
banzai
response 6 of 29: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 20:45 UTC 1993

#1 Stilyagi can from the book "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Heinlien
(The Stilyagi Air Corps..)  This is the Ann Arbor Science Fiction club
(I think still a UofM group too..)  We discuss anything sci-fi related
including the local conventions.  (And some stuff non-sci-fi realted..)
Come by the meetings on Wensday 9ish at the Old Town and see what it's
like!
vidar
response 7 of 29: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 23:04 UTC 1993

<vidar drops in from the twelfth story window, and lands on skezz lightly, then
jumps off and onto the ground.  He poises his laser-sighted machine gun over
his shoulder.>
alx
response 8 of 29: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 21:26 UTC 1994

The Stilyagi are also responsible (if that's the word) for ConFusion, which is
held every January, somewhere around here.  (Did they decide if they're going
to leave the area, like ConClave is going to?) Greetings to all who know me. 
(You've been warned.)
robh
response 9 of 29: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 22:09 UTC 1994

Huh?  When/why is ConClave leaving???
dc
response 10 of 29: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 11:16 UTC 1994

#8 may be refering to ConClaves discussion to have their convention in
Lansing this year.  However, they decided to have it the the Southfield
Whats It Hotel.
lkt
response 11 of 29: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 23:43 UTC 1994

ConFusion 10101 will once again be held at the Holiday Inn Crowne Plaza
in Romulus, near Detroit Metro.  The date is January  27-29, 1995.
Pro GoH is Pamela Sargent, Fan GoH Bob Tucker, TM Kathe Koja,
Artist GoH Laura Butler, Science GoH Geoffrey Landis.  Membership
rates are $20 until Nov. 15, $25 until Jan. 15, $30 at the door.
Checks payable checks payable in U.S. funds to AASFA/ConFusion.  For further
info: ConFusion, P.O. Box 8284, Ann Arbor, MI 48107.

The Stilyagi Air Corps is no longer a U-M student organization,
and hasn't been for at least three or more years.  Nor did the group
start out as a student organization.  In the beginning (1973) it was
a group of Ann Arbor fen who met at the World SF con in Toronto
in 1973 and decided to continue meeting when they returned home.
The first Stilyagi meetings were held at a book store called
the Cloak and Rocket.  They sought recognition as a student
organization so they could use university facilities to hold their
first convention, the A2 Relax I Con, held in the ballroom at
the U-M Student Union in February 1974.  They maintained their
student status so they could continue to hold the weekly Stilyagi
business meetings in various meetingg rooms around campus.  All of
us early Stilyagi members considered the student organization
status as nothing more than a "front" which allowed us to access
free meeting rooms and use of university copy centers for printing
the club fanzine and other publications.  During some of those
early years, virtually none of the active Stilyagi members were
currently enrolled as students so we had to draft the occasional
"friend of a friend who was a student to sign the necessary
paperwork to keep us "legitimate."

Word is that ConClave will indeed be moving to Lansing in 1995.
Aparently they've signed a contract and everythi Many of the
attendees at the recent ConClave (Oct. 7-9, 1994) seemed less
than enthusiastic at this prospect.
kentn
response 12 of 29: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 15:34 UTC 1994

What is the reason for ConClave moving?  Were they unable to find
a decent hotel (i.e., got fed up with the Southfield Days Hotel, or
whatever) or did they just feel that more fen would attend if the
con were in Lansing?
  Or ???
robh
response 13 of 29: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 02:25 UTC 1994

I can't believe they thought attendance would improve in
Lansing, it's only marginally closer to Chicago, much much much
further from Detroit, and not particularly closer to any
other big population base.  Sure, the folks from Grand
Rapids will have an easier time, but how many of them
are there?

I will be very surprised if ConClave doesn't shows a huge
drop in attendance because of this.  Goddess knows I won't be able to
go this time.
gregc
response 14 of 29: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 17:14 UTC 1994

They didn't choose lansing because of it's location or being "nearer"
to anybody. They choose lansing because it was the only place they could find 
a decent hotel to hold the con in. There just arn't any decent hotels
in the A^2 detroit area left that can hold a con of Conclave's size.
Everybody is sick of the Days/whatever hotel at 9mi& Southfield.
.]
robh
response 15 of 29: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 18:08 UTC 1994

That's a good reason.  Of course, after a few cons in Lansing,
the attendance will go down far enough so they can come back
to Detroit, until they get too big again...

<robh's head is spinning>
pegasus
response 16 of 29: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 21:37 UTC 1994

Rob,

There are buses into Lansing, and trains too. It takes about 2hrs from
Ypsi to Mason, back when I was in college. Mason is close to Lansing,
so you could be there in 3 hrs, easy. It was $10 each way back then, but
I have no idea of the prices now. Lansing has a good bus system, too,
and if the show is near MSU, there's a big bus depot there.

        Pattie
robh
response 17 of 29: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 02:23 UTC 1994

Pattie, you seriously overestimate how much time and money I'd
be willing to spend on ConClave, especially since Confusion
is about fifteen minutes drive from my house.  Rather than
spend money on a bus, I'd just save it and use it on the
Dealers' Tables at Confusion.  >8)

I'm sure the hard-core con-goers will still go to a Lansing
con, but many will not.
pegasus
response 18 of 29: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 15:21 UTC 1994

ROb,

I didn
t realize there were two shows of similar type. :)

        Pattie
alx
response 19 of 29: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 18:25 UTC 1994

#18 (pegasus) may not know there are four cons in the area.
Clave, Fusion, Traption, and Bacchanal (if you want to call Bacchanal
a con; YMMV).
As to how long this situation obtains, it's anyone's guess.
Aloha!
kentn
response 20 of 29: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 18:27 UTC 1994

I see Ditto was held here in Ann Arbor, too.
alx
response 21 of 29: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 18:30 UTC 1994

Thing is, Ditto (like Corflu, the other fanzine fans convention, passes 
from place to place.  Corflu is in Las Vegas this year, and damned
if I know where Ditto's going to be next.
I missed this year; the Post Office only gives me one weekend off 
out of every six, and this one wasn't it.
kentn
response 22 of 29: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 00:32 UTC 1994

Yeah, I know...just thought I'd mention it, since it was local this
year.  We got a chance to pick Eric Lindsey up at the airport so he
could attend Ditto.  He puts out a fanzine called Gegenshine (I
probably misspelled that...) that is fun to read.
lkt
response 23 of 29: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 06:36 UTC 1994

Yeah, you misspelled it.  Good guess.  It's "Gegenschein
(and trying to type over this damned line noise, I probably just
misspelled it, too).  Sorry you and Suzi weren't able to actually
attend Ditto.  See you at ConFusion?
kentn
response 24 of 29: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 12:57 UTC 1994

Hmmm, haven't heard yet.  I'd sure like to go, though!
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