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willi
THE X FILES (they are among us) Mark Unseen   Mar 13 02:08 UTC 1994

 Don't know if anyone has caught The X-Files on the Fox network.
For those listeners who enjoy conspiracies, secret Government
experiments, UFO searches, and FBI agents that dig into all that
juicy stuff, this is the show for you...
119 responses total.
willi
response 1 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 02:10 UTC 1994

The Litchfield experiments! (3/11) How about those crazy clones...
robh
response 2 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 03:08 UTC 1994

This item is now linked as Scifi item 38.
dam
response 3 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 05:06 UTC 1994

gee, when is the lake michigan UFO going to make the show?
other
response 4 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 05:42 UTC 1994

I just got the April _Omni_. 
        "Special: 50 years of close encounters"
        "The UFO Conspiracy"
        "Russian secret saucer research"
        "An abductee speaks"
        "Inside the military/UFO underground: breaking the silent barrier"

        I'm beginning to wonder why I got this subscription...there's 
actually some intelligent reporting, but it's buried underneath all this
sensationalist garbage!

kami
response 5 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 06:14 UTC 1994

they USED to have a fair amount of good fiction.
other
response 6 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 07:33 UTC 1994

There *is* that, but it wasn't what I was looking for when I got it...
Actually it was the "Science and the Mind" issue which attracted me (Oct. 1993)
kami
response 7 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 05:32 UTC 1994

sort of getting Playboy for the interviews- it CAN be done, but no one 
believes you...
other
response 8 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 05:36 UTC 1994

If I had been better informed before buying (my eternal downfall), I should
have chosen an alternate product...
kami
response 9 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 05:42 UTC 1994

analog?
danr
response 10 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 12:13 UTC 1994

re #8: Write Omni and thell them you want to cancel your subscription.
I've don this a couple of times and both times I've received a refund
for the unused portion of my subscription.
willi
response 11 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 22:59 UTC 1994

 In case anyone had missed it, Pop. Science had an interesting
article in the March issue about "Area-51", the secret airforce
base in Nevada that is presumed to house/test the Aurora hypersonic
spy plane that replaced the SR-71. It is also conjectured that
the alien spacecraft supposedly seized by the Gov't in the 50's
was reverse engineered and tested at this complex. Note that the
Airbase doesn't show up on any Gov't or aviation maps, 'ala the
Soviets. The only boo-boo is that Uncle Sam forgot to grab the 
high ground outside the air base that many keen observers have
been watching events from a clear vantage point for years, a
situation they are now trying to rectify.

ziggy
response 12 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 23:54 UTC 1994

sounds interesting.
other
response 13 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 00:46 UTC 1994

Speaking of Omni, they report in the current issue that "On September 30 of 
last year, [the U.S. Air Force] initiated procedures to seize another 3,900
acres adjoining Groom Lake, [the aforementioned 'Area 51']  effectively
sealing off two public viewing sites of a base it refuses to admit exists."
        I wonder from whom they are seizing this land, and under what legal
        grounds...imminent domain?
davel
response 14 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 03:20 UTC 1994

Well, before the last presidential elections, one of the supermarket tabloids
revealed that Ross Perot had had a conference with some aliens ("space aliens"
that is).  They had a clear photo on the front page.

IMO, if the US seized & reverse-engineered alien spacecraft we'd have
learned *something*, & there's no evidence that we did.
steve
response 15 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 03:23 UTC 1994

   Yup.  Of course, had we ever gotten ahold of an actual spacecraft
from another civilization, it would have been leaked.  If we can't
keep leaks from getting out of the government, and spies from crawling
in, I hardly think that such a story would go unpublished.
gregc
response 16 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 05:01 UTC 1994

Oh, but Steve, those stories are published *all* the time! :-).
steve
response 17 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 05:11 UTC 1994

   Yeah--right between the National Inquirer and nail files.
kaplan
response 18 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 05:19 UTC 1994

I enjoy the X-files a lot more than similar stories that claim to be true. 
Government conspiracies, ghosts, and other (probably) impossible things in
a fictitious world are fun to think about, but when a real guy says that
the space aliens really abducted him my skepticism gets in the way of
enjoying the story. 

Before yesterday, I never wanted to risk getting hooked on IRC.  But now
that I've read that X-Filers (or whatever the fans have decided to call
themselves) get on IRC after the episode airs, I may have to find a way to
check it out.
other
response 19 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 17:40 UTC 1994

It seems entirely likely that *if* such contacts as mentioned have occurred,
and *if* reverse engineering has occurred, any leaks which would have resulted
would be very easily discredited simply by nature of the popular fascination
with the idea and it's rejection by the establishment.  It puts anyone claiming
anything in the light of ridicule automatically.
        Therefore, it is faulty logic to assume that 1) there have been no
occurrences because there would have to have been leaks or, 2) there have bee
no leaks because we would have heard them.   The fact is, we wouldn't be able
to distinguish a legitimate claim from a bogus one dreamed up by an individual
with a large store of technical knowledge.  We just don't seem to have access
to physical materials which can support any claims.  The military *certainly*
would not allow public access to any technology which they feel might give
them any advantage on the world stage if they could keep it secret, especially
if it is so advanced as to be unrecognizeable by 'enemy' inteligence.
shf
response 20 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 19:32 UTC 1994

It has been asserted that "stealth" technology is reverse engineered
alien technology:)
other
response 21 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 20:28 UTC 1994

        It is equally assertable that "stealth" technology is the logical
result of research into radar invisibility.  Or rather, research which is not
complete, as apparently "Stealth" fighters and bombers are not nearly at the
point of undetectability, or even beyond the point of identifiability...
bap
response 22 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 20:53 UTC 1994

And where do you think GE got the knowledge to manufacture microchips instead
of vacuum tubes?  From those captured alien aircraft.  

I love the X-Files.  
davel
response 23 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 21:08 UTC 1994

(Hey, Buddy, have I got a bridge for you.  Cheap!)
shf
response 24 of 119: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 05:35 UTC 1994

ayup
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