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gnuwave
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enders game
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Feb 22 00:18 UTC 2000 |
has anyone ever read enders game or speaker for the dead?
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gnuwave
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response 1 of 16:
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Feb 22 00:19 UTC 2000 |
these books are you orson scott card
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gelinas
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response 2 of 16:
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Feb 22 05:13 UTC 2000 |
Yup. I've now read four in the 'series': Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead,
Xenocide and Ender's Shadow.
I also enjoyed his Songhouse seris.
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mcnally
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response 3 of 16:
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Feb 22 05:34 UTC 2000 |
there's more than one of those?
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gelinas
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response 4 of 16:
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Feb 23 03:12 UTC 2000 |
Think so. Possibly because I first read _Mikhail's_Songbird_ in Analog,
and then found a novel which included some before-and-after.
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mcnally
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response 5 of 16:
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Feb 23 03:27 UTC 2000 |
Card seems to make a habit out of bookending short fiction and
then publishing it as a novel..
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aruba
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response 6 of 16:
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Feb 24 19:55 UTC 2000 |
I've read the first two Ender books, but didn't get very far into Xenocide.
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madelf
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response 7 of 16:
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Feb 25 05:31 UTC 2000 |
I recently re-read Enders Game, followed it up with Speaker for the Dead and
the Enders Shadow. I have yet to read any others in ther series. People who
have tell me it's probably not worth the time. Any opinions ?
I thought Enders Game was great, Speaker for the Dead was very good in a
different way and I'm still undecided about Enders Shadow. Having so recently
read Enders Game I felt Shaodw somehow detracted from the story.
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gelinas
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response 8 of 16:
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Feb 26 01:42 UTC 2000 |
After reading Ender's Shadow, I want to re-read at least Ender's Game.
I dunno; seeing some of the same events from a different view point doesn't
bother me. And inconsistencies between such view points doesn't bother me,
either.
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madelf
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response 9 of 16:
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Feb 28 04:16 UTC 2000 |
It's not inconsistencies or differnt view points that I'm thinkinbg about.
It was actually rather neat to "see" thigs from another viewpoint. Some of
what happens (trying not to spoil it for those have have not read both yet)
seems to diminish the role Ender played in his own book. It's not a rational
things, I'm just being "protective" of Ender.
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gelinas
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response 10 of 16:
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Feb 28 05:03 UTC 2000 |
Yeah, that's why I want to re-read Ender's Game. Was Bean's report of the
final battle self-agrandizing? I suspect not, but I want to check.
Children of the Mind was a fitting end to the series, I think.
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otaking
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response 11 of 16:
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Mar 1 19:06 UTC 2000 |
Just so you know, Ender's Game is available in a special $3.99 paperback
edition. I think that Tor is picking up on Baen's popularity of their special
$1.99 novels.
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randar
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response 12 of 16:
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Mar 9 00:16 UTC 2000 |
Donna Minkowitz from Salon interviewed him last month, you can read the
interview here - http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2000/02/03/card/index.h
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mcnally
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response 13 of 16:
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Mar 9 02:39 UTC 2000 |
And then be sure to read Minkowitz's super-whiny story about how shocked
[shocked!] she was to learn that Card, an openly Mormon writer who has
hardly hidden any of his religious or social views, didn't share her
lesbian atheist views.. It's a really outstanding example of a person
blinded by hero-worship.
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otaking
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response 14 of 16:
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Mar 10 04:35 UTC 2000 |
Knowing his Mormon background, I'm amused that Card wrote "The Great Secular
Humanist Revival."
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dbratman
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Mar 13 19:00 UTC 2000 |
Could anybody explain what is so great, or good at all, about Orson
Scott Card? I have been puzzling over this for 23 years, ever since his
first story appeared. A cliched (even then!) plot about a video game
whiz ("pinball wizard / there has to be a twist ...") whose games turn
out (surprise surprise) to be real, it seemed to me to be a decent
enough story with nothing new to add, but people were leaping in ecstasy
over it.
Then came the novel of the same title ("Ender's Game"), featuring
children so obnoxiously and unbelievably precocious that I could not
stand an entire book in their company. I'd even rather listen to
Lazarus Long, if I had to.
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mcnally
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Mar 13 21:13 UTC 2000 |
I don't know that I can help you as I'm not wildly impressed by
his writing. I think many people are attracted to his stories
about characters who are undeniably better than the folks who
surround them - smarter, more able, touched by the gods in some
special way, often to an exaggerated degree. Perhaps it's a
wish-fulfillment thing to read a book and identify with characters
who are so inherently superior to the common man..
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