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Cloning pets Mark Unseen   May 26 23:00 UTC 1998

I heard today that a company in LAs Vegas called Clontron, with collaboration
of french scientists are going to start cloning pets for thier owners within
5 months. They would just need some cells from that pet. It would cost 50
grand. Who would want to spend  50 grand to get a clone of thier pet?
11 responses total.
rcurl
response 1 of 11: Mark Unseen   May 27 04:37 UTC 1998

People put up $65,000 to be led up Mt. Everest (and they have to walk
it all *themselves*!). So, someone will spend $50 for a pet clone. Some
people will their pets a lots more than that, or purchase a $50K
masoleum, etc. There are crazies all over the place. The real question is -
why didn't you think of that first?  8^}
russ
response 2 of 11: Mark Unseen   May 27 05:57 UTC 1998

I dunno, there are some mighty spoiled, rich people in places like
Hollywood and New York.  The type who spend several grand to cross
the Atlantic at Mach 2 would seem to be good candidates for this.
i
response 3 of 11: Mark Unseen   May 27 23:07 UTC 1998

Well, for those into high & fancy purebreds, how much is a great champion
dog / cat / whatever worth?  If over $50K, then.....
rcurl
response 4 of 11: Mark Unseen   May 28 02:50 UTC 1998

Not if everyone has the same one....
i
response 5 of 11: Mark Unseen   May 28 23:57 UTC 1998

Unless the clone company cheats, the owner of the aging original will also
own the only clone.  (Or two clones, or three, or whatever (obviously small)
number might maximize his profit.)
rcurl
response 6 of 11: Mark Unseen   May 29 04:47 UTC 1998

Profit? From what? If he sells them, they can be cloned. If they were
racehorses - only one horse can win a race. If the same horse (!)
consistently won, placed and showed, everybody would bet on them and
no one would win much. Please describe a way to make money from multiple
clones.
i
response 7 of 11: Mark Unseen   May 30 02:19 UTC 1998

(In modern horse racing, the horse that *always* wins has virtually no
chance of ever being foaled.  Without the original, clones are a moot
point.)  Let's say that Bessie is a champion beef cow.  Without cloning,
Bessie can make a few calves, then she's made into steaks, hamburgers, etc.
With cloning, a commercial-sized heard of cattle that have inherited old
Bessie's `superior' characteristics can be built up far faster.  If beef
cattle from that herd are worth an extra 5 cents per pound from the meat
packer (Bessie wasn't awarded that blue ribbon for winning a race), the
cloning will easily pay for itself by eliminating generations from the
process of building up that herd.  Same thing applies to Monty the great
sheep dog who's clones all fetch top stud fees.  Or whatever.   
rcurl
response 8 of 11: Mark Unseen   May 30 06:06 UTC 1998

Why do you say "without the original, clones are a moot point? Clones
of the clones are identical to the original.
i
response 9 of 11: Mark Unseen   May 30 22:00 UTC 1998

If you don't have a goose that lays golden eggs, the ability to replicate
such a goose isn't worth much gold.  
rcurl
response 10 of 11: Mark Unseen   May 31 04:05 UTC 1998

Finally...figured out what you are saying. Yes, you can take advantage
of cloning if they individually add to your profitability, and you keep
them all. Studs are a good example - you can keep the same one young
essentially forever (as clones). But when the technology gets better
and any cell can be used to make a clone, it will be very difficult to
prevent it from being stolen. Animals shed cells by the millions every
day - you just have to capture one. 

pari
response 11 of 11: Mark Unseen   Jul 15 09:56 UTC 1998

Hi ! This is a very good !I like it very much !
E-mail:
paritoshcp@usa.net

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