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humdog
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torture
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Mar 17 22:45 UTC 1995 |
i am interested in torture.
i get that the medievals were good at it.
please share
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vsclyne
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response 1 of 64:
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Mar 18 14:31 UTC 1995 |
<Humdog>, tell us more. Is it the exquisiteness of the physical pain expertly
delivered or the claustrophic feeling of being restrained and under the
complete control of another human being that most attracts you to this idea?
Or is it perhaps... the arcane rituals of the medievals that conjur cravings in
your consciousness?
Tell us. We can help.
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orinoco
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response 2 of 64:
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Mar 18 15:03 UTC 1995 |
<orinoco reaches for his whip>
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brenner
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response 3 of 64:
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Mar 19 05:33 UTC 1995 |
<brenner runs baack to the safety of the accordion (tm) conference
to ask mdw what this means.>
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humdog
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response 4 of 64:
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Mar 19 18:23 UTC 1995 |
for example, the vikings had an interesting torture called
the Blood Eagle.
do any of you medieval guys scuse me, Personettes, know about this,
or shall i explain?
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kami
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response 5 of 64:
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Mar 20 05:55 UTC 1995 |
you don't need to explain.
It's old news.
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humdog
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response 6 of 64:
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Mar 20 10:37 UTC 1995 |
i cannot tell you how pleased i am to hear that.
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humdog
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response 7 of 64:
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Mar 25 13:46 UTC 1995 |
now let us treat of modern inquisitions.
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pegasus
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response 8 of 64:
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Mar 25 20:15 UTC 1995 |
If you're going to talk about modern stuff, please do so in another
conference. This is about history circ. 600-1600AD. Thanks.
Pattie
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brenner
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response 9 of 64:
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Mar 26 00:27 UTC 1995 |
does not compute.
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mdw
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response 10 of 64:
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Mar 27 08:50 UTC 1995 |
The medivals were interested in torture in purely practical terms; as a
matter of getting to the truth. I believe they had several underlying
reasons for this:
(1) some people might be more likely to tell the truth
if faced with the prospect or reality of pain.
(2) "trial by ordeal" - a religious theory that "God"
will help those who deserve succor.
(3) a theory which persists even today (republicans) that
where there's smoke there's fire.
(oddly, fire has always been a popular means of torture.)
(4) people who are "guilty" (see clause 3) deserve
punishment (persists today).
Indeed, while we like to think these are purely medieval notions of
punishment, these theories are by no means dead, but persist in varying
form in such countries as Saudia Arabia, Iran,Singapore, and what
remains of Yugoslavia. It's been updated, of course. Electricity has
edged fire out in popularity; not only in the form of cattle prods, but
also in such purely symbolic gestures as the use of lamp cords and
electrical tape.
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brenner
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response 11 of 64:
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Mar 27 09:47 UTC 1995 |
Most trials bear the symbolic vestiges of "trial by ordeal."
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thanne
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response 12 of 64:
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Mar 27 21:06 UTC 1995 |
Well, certainly the idea of deserving physical punishment persists.
Like when the papers report an accident or murder, and they make
sure you know that the victim was a nice guy. If he'd been a mean
guy, who cares, right?
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juls
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response 13 of 64:
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Mar 27 21:29 UTC 1995 |
The present trial in LA is an ordeal for all of us, sho 'nuf. And torture
is ever so au courant, my deah, in all the best circles, n'est ce pas?
(God, it's true -- I'm becoming schizoid. Pulling up a chair at the cafe
table occupied by rats in the middle of the intersection of Tobacco Road and
the Champs Elysees.)
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sdober
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response 14 of 64:
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Mar 28 01:12 UTC 1995 |
Love me or I'll kill you baby,
Gonna slice you up like rare roast beef.
Love me or I'll kill you baby,
gonna slice you up like rare roast beef
Gonna have to call a dentist
Identify you by your teeth.
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brenner
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response 15 of 64:
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Mar 28 02:11 UTC 1995 |
Call me or I'll beef you baby,
Gonna ring ya like the telephone.
Call me or I'll beef you baby,
Gonna toot toot toot your horn
Gonna have a phlebotomist
Stick stick stick you in the morn.
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thanne
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response 16 of 64:
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Mar 28 03:30 UTC 1995 |
Identify you by your teeth -- that's my favorite line. You, ah, seem
a bit enamored of that song, Steve. Who sings it again?
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nephi
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response 17 of 64:
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Mar 28 05:42 UTC 1995 |
Ah, but isn't the "pau de arara" a wonderful little method of torture?
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sdober
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response 18 of 64:
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Mar 28 17:05 UTC 1995 |
brenner, you have a big future in the blues.
I love that tune, thanne. It seemd, well, *rude* not to share it with my
new pals here, too. It's by Nick Gravenites.
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brenner
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response 19 of 64:
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Mar 29 03:49 UTC 1995 |
Now, steve this is a Pre-Cambrian fantasy conference.
Lookit! Pebbles! Bam Bam! Role playing! Hurr hurr hurr!~
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humdog
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response 20 of 64:
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Mar 30 10:41 UTC 1995 |
that's right. this conference is dedicated to
creating history as it should be, full of gooey marshmallow
romance and all the men are fabio and all the women
have big tits.
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brenner
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response 21 of 64:
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Mar 30 13:28 UTC 1995 |
(Day two...and still no flames, ladies and gentlemen!)
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vsclyne
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response 22 of 64:
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Mar 30 13:37 UTC 1995 |
I suspect Humdog's flame wars are mythical in more
ways than one.
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juls
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response 23 of 64:
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Mar 30 16:42 UTC 1995 |
Oh, dear -- I think he's poked that glint-toothed canine just once too
often. <juls dives under the couch, big tits barely making it>
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humdog
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response 24 of 64:
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Mar 30 16:51 UTC 1995 |
i do not Flame on command, you know.
i do hardly anything on command.
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