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mta
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Rennaisance Festival
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Jun 27 21:55 UTC 1992 |
Has anyone heard the details of the Ann Arbor Ren Festival?
When??? for instance...
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bad
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response 1 of 66:
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Jun 27 23:08 UTC 1992 |
Ren? Will Stimpy be there, too?
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remmers
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response 2 of 66:
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Jun 28 01:10 UTC 1992 |
Brian, go to your room!
Oh, you're already there. Nevermind....
No, haven't heard any details yet, but would be interested in reading
them here.
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glenda
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response 3 of 66:
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Jun 28 13:40 UTC 1992 |
Will respond when I get the details. Cynnabar usually is there for 1-2 of
the weekends. We do demos and run a pop concession stand.
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glenda
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response 4 of 66:
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Jul 15 15:14 UTC 1992 |
Okay, I picked up a flyer and got the info on when the SCA would be involved.
Childhood Quest August 15-16 Frolic and join in the fun. Experience
Hollygrove through the eyes of a child with games, a petting zoo, contests,
puppet shows, parades and prizes.
Renaissance Romance August 22-23 Engage yourself in romantic notions. L
reigns true as the King and Queen pledge their love in a renewal of vows. SCA
will be involved this weekend. We are tentatively planning a court of love.
Tournament of Chivalry August 29-30 Valiant knights in shining armor take to
the field in the Games Gala Tourney. SCA will have some sort of fighting
demo/skit.
Peasant Olympics September 5-6-7 Let the games begin with Tote-a-Bloke
and Press-a-Wench. Partake in foolish antics in a special celebratory
weekend. We invite you to help us discover the Adventure of long ago.
Music and Dance September 12-13 Clecbrate song and dance with merry
minstrels and lighthearted troubadours who invite you to rejoice and kick up
your heels in harmony. SCA is invited for this weekend, not sure yet what
we will be doing.
Highland Fling September 19-20 Join us in a stirring tribute to
Scotland. The Masters Caber Toss Champions once again take to the gamin
fields while the tartan-clad Scotsmane captivate and delight you in the
Highland dance competitions.
Country Wine Affair September 26-27 King Edward and Queen Katheryne
invite you to savor fine exotic edibles and sample the nectar of the gods in a
splendid Country Wine Affair Farewell Weekend Celebration.
There are Celebrity Challenge Weekends on Aug 23 & 30, Sept 7 & 13; sponsored
by WDIV/TV 4
Admission Prices are: Adults $10.95 at the gate 9.50 in advance; Children
$5.95 at the gate 5.00 in advance; Children under 5 are free.
10:00 a.m. - 7:00 p.m., rain or shine. Advance tickets available at all
Kroger Supermarkets, Kessel Food Markets in the Flint and Saginaw areas and
participating Total Gasoline stations.
Form further information, motor coach and group rates call (313)645-9640.
Free parking, no pets. Located one mile north of Mt. Holly, Inc on Dixie
Highway between Pontiac and Flint.
I had heard somewhere last year that if you come in Renaissance Dress you
got in for half price, but the flyer doesn't make any mention of it, so I
would check first before trying it.
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kentn
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response 5 of 66:
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Jul 18 04:12 UTC 1992 |
Wow. I enjoyed having SCA at the RenFest last year; it'll be great to
have them there more often. Just be sure to bring your armorer...he
attracted a lot of attention (the mock battles were also excellent).
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bad
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response 6 of 66:
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Aug 4 13:58 UTC 1992 |
"Merry Minstrels and light-hearted Troubadours?"
Wow.
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kimba
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response 7 of 66:
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May 3 22:33 UTC 1994 |
Renaissance Festival goes on EVERY year, remember??? And there is alot more
to it than the one weekend SCA is there! (Ok, I know this is a SCA conf, but
Renaissance Festival is an enitity onto itself!)
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kentn
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response 8 of 66:
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May 4 00:42 UTC 1994 |
Most certainly. A local (Ann Arbor) madrigal group performs every
weekend (Our Lady's Madrigal Singers) for one thing.
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kimba
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May 4 20:52 UTC 1994 |
where do they perform? Another RenFest person/musician that performs all
over the Detroit area is Jim Perkins. He is always as Four Green Fields
(hosts open mike night) and the Old Shilleghleigh. Is there anyone out there
interested in auditioning for Renaissance Festival? (I have details if you;d
like them. I work Ren Fest every year).
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juggler
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response 10 of 66:
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May 4 21:33 UTC 1994 |
Jim can also be found every Friday at Brendans Pub in Farmington.
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kentn
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response 11 of 66:
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May 4 22:26 UTC 1994 |
We've got a tape or two of Jim's. He's a lot of fun to watch and
listen to.
OLMS performs at various places in the AA/Detroit area, depending
on who hires them (such as the Ren Fest). They also do a couple
seasonal concerts in AA. It is a semi-professional, volunteer
group, so don't expect them to hang out at a bar on a daily basis ;)
They do small group (4-6 people) as well as full choir-type
performances.
Owaine Phyfe (geez, I hope I spelled that somewhat correctly) is
another local area performer. My wife just got his new CD (New
World Renaissance Band) which I believe includes a performer or two from
the Gypsy Guerilla Band (another fun Ren Fest regular).
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kimba
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May 5 04:24 UTC 1994 |
Owen Fite (non-stage spelling) is a very good friend of ours! We not only
perform w/him at RenFest, but at the annual OCC Wassail (w/his wife Paula,
also). Actually, he has ANOTHER new cd he's just recently completed called
"Where Beauty Moves and Wit Delights". it's wonderful (of course) done with
the New World Renaissance Band (and yes, it does have member of the GGB) and
Jim Perkins does back-up on one song.
Are you at all familiar w/Gibbon the Troubadour (aka Gary Amadon) from RenFest?
He also does alot of places around Detroit when he's in the state. he has
a wonderful new tape called "Tillerman's Rye" available. He's a very close
friend also.
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kentn
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May 5 04:57 UTC 1994 |
Yes, I've seen him at Ren Fest and camped near his bus a time or two.
We just got the Where Beauty Moves... that's the new CD I was talking
about. We've got another of Owen's CDs that we purchased last year
at Ren Fest.
I might say that it's very fun to camp in the participant area
at Ren Fest. (except for excessive drumming ;)
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kami
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May 5 14:59 UTC 1994 |
There seem to be a number of folks here or friends of folks here who are
musical. I'm missing verse 3 to a popular Mayday song. If someone could
find it for me before Saturday, I'd be grateful. Verse 1 goes something like:
Come ye young lads, come a-long
With your music, dance and song.
Bring your lasses in your hands,
For 'tis that which love commands.
Then to the May Pole hasete away,
For 'tis now our holiday.
etc.
Any complete version would be appreciated.
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kimba
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May 5 20:35 UTC 1994 |
Kentn, do you work Fest? What particular participant area are you refering to?
(there are a couple in various areas both on Fest grounds and area campgrounds)
Kami: I'll see what I can find for you!
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kentn
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May 5 23:44 UTC 1994 |
No I don't work at Ren Fest. I've hung out there while my wife has
performed with the madrigal singers. Usually I'll go in costume.
We've camped in the participant camp ground behind the Ren Fest, where
a lot of other participants also camp.
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kimba
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May 6 23:24 UTC 1994 |
Unfortunately the participant camping grounds behind Fest no longer exist
(unless they change plans this year...new owner...YEAH!) I've camped there
(w/Gary "gibbon")...always a good time. MOst people now camp at Jellystone
or the other one on the corner (can never remember the name). When is HLMS
next performance and where? (We'd be interested in seeing them again)
Does anyone have any opinions as to changes and/or things they'd like to see
at RenFest? Does anyone involved w/SCA have an opinion of why the tension
exists between SCA people and RenFEst people?
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kentn
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May 7 00:42 UTC 1994 |
Wow. And after they looked like they were going to expand the
campground, too (they'd put in a new "loop" of gravel road last time
I was back there). Guess the liability of having people camp there got
to the powers that be (either that or fire marshall did).
Is "the one on the corner" the state park (or is that the Jellystone
you're referring to)? We've camped at the state park before, but it's
a big pain to get going in the morning when you have to drive to the
Ren Fest and hassle with everyone else driving in early in the morning.
Having the campground out back was much handier and so much nicer at
the end of a long, hot, dusty day than driving several miles down the
highway before relaxing. Oh well...
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juggler
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May 7 16:13 UTC 1994 |
I don't think that it's a state park... It's the one that's right on Dixie
only about 1 mile down from fest right before Grange Hall as your coming
from fest it's on the left hand side. The name always excapes me...
Part of the reason that they're getting rid of the on-site camping is
that the physical space for parking of patrons has gotten MIGHTY scarce.
As of last year, participants could no longer park on-site, we had to
park at Mt. Holly and get ferried in on big, hot, smelly busses. And
they STILL had 7 and 8 mile backups for parking! Kind of a bind 'cause
there's only aq very finite space that they can expand in and I guess that
the participant camping just kinda lost out, unfortunately!
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pegasus
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May 9 16:33 UTC 1994 |
It's easy to explain the friction between SCA nad the Renaissance Festival
when you look at the baSic foundation of the SCA. In general, SCA people
speak scathingly of renfests, since it's not the real thing, and no attempt
is made to re-create the real thing.
Pattie
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esteves
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May 9 17:37 UTC 1994 |
Oh please.
How many SCA people put in a true attempt to 're-create the real thing'?
True, the SCA is not as commercial as the RenFairs, and don't fall into as
many of the "hollywood traps"; but lets not look down our noses too far.
Someone putting on a poly-cotton tunic with no trim, calling themselves a
celt and talking about computers/cars/kidex/gov't/whatever; is not my
idea of the real thing.
If you would like an interesting test; go to the next outing, and speak of
only things medieval. :)
PS This is not meant as a personaly attack on you pegasus, just some spouting
off of my own.
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kimba
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May 9 18:53 UTC 1994 |
Ok, it is true RenFest is commercial, but the bottom lines, after all IS to
make money. It'd be a bit gross to patrons if we had rats running around in
garbage thrown out in the streets from the shops, wouldn't it? So by following
health and civil guidelines, RenFest people do a pretty good job. RenFest is
an allusion to the harvest festivals when everyone brought their wares into
the village. It's acting! (though I will admit to being greatly annoyed by
terrible accents, but I've heard alot of SCA people not even attempt one!)
So if RenFest is acting, I'd have to say so is SCA. That's why I do not under-
stand why SCA people hate RenFest people so much. To argue its because we
aren't authentic enough seems a cop-out. Practiacally, we CAN'T be 100%
authentic w/costumes because of the heat, health laws, & comfort. We CAN'T make
the grounds 100% authentic or it'd be complete chaos in crowds of over 25,000
(as we had last Labour Day). It is a "taste" of Renaissance life, not the real
thing. And that's what RenFest people have a hard time accepting about SCA
people. SCA people (this is not aimed at anyone in particular, just as a
whole) tend to take _everything_ far too seriously, they tend to criticize far
too rapidly and don't watch for their own flaws. I've encountered _many_ SCA
folks who don't know when to let things drop. This IS the 1990s and there is a
place and time for everything. I do not appreciate someone at 2 a.m. standing
next to their car attempting to be a nobleman and actually think I'm going to
believe them! It is because of these reasons RenFest people/actors begin
disliking SCA people, but I don't understand their open hatred of us?
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kami
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May 10 02:32 UTC 1994 |
This seems to be becoming rather an acrimonious discussion. And her I was
thinking that the conflict didn't seem too severe in Michigan. Sigh.
I guess my take on it is that the Ren-folk have every right to resent SCA
people coming in and disparaging their work, when they don't do such a
comprehensive job of staying in character/period either. When I go to a
renfair, I try to suspend judgement/disbelief as best I can and just enjoy
the atmoshphere. On the other hand, if I were to suggest changes to the Faire,
I think it might be possible to have more consistent street acting so that
visitors are drawn in more fully, and there are fairly hygienic things that
merchants, including food merchants, might do to extend the image or level
of accuracy. For example, I wonder if wheeled carts could bring stock to
the food booths or carry it around for sale? Could some of the merchants
cry their wares wandering about? Could there be more of a "plot" to spark
discussion among the street actors, which might interest visitors? I just
don't see why there has to be such anger between two different but related
groups which can help one another. Maybe I'm an idealist.
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kentn
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response 24 of 66:
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May 10 04:21 UTC 1994 |
Well, I enjoy the Ren Fest on its own terms, and I also enjoyed the
weekend when the SCA people where there (they let me attend the King
at the joust). Each group has something to offer and I don't see much
point to either group picking on the other. I agree that supension
of disbelief is probably the primary ingredient to having a good time.
And I expect that goes for either SCA good times or Ren Fest good times.
I've met, talked with, and made friends in both camps, and I think it's
really great that *anybody* takes the time to participate in an
activity that makes a lot of people very happy.
In re: new "plots" -- I think they could always use a new schtick or
two to liven things up. And anything to make it look more like a
community (from public floggings to weddings) would enhance the
atmosphere. Probably they (the mgmt) should work hard at training
the vendors and actors to speak proper English...I expect they already
do some of that sort of work...
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