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quixote
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IF JESUS IS GOD
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Nov 16 02:55 UTC 1998 |
IF JESUS IS GOD
Those who mistakenly believe that Jesus is God are obligated by their
misguided faith to believe that Jesus was a butcher of children! For if
Jesus is in fact God, he did not deny certain wicked things that were
said of God.
1 SAMUEL 15:2-3 Thus says the Lord of hosts, 'I will punish the
Amalekites for what they did in opposing the Israelites when they came
up out of Egypt. (3) Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all
that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, CHILD
AND INFANT, ox and sheep, camels and donkey!
FOR THIS IS THE HOUSE OF BONDAGE- THIS IS THE LAND OF EGYPT
http://www.cjnetworks.com/~quixote
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i
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response 1 of 14:
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Nov 16 04:55 UTC 1998 |
This is fairly tame compared to some of the stuff you'll run into if you
take the Bible literally & start reading outside the parts they covered
in Sunday School. What's the point?
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quixote
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response 2 of 14:
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Nov 20 15:30 UTC 1998 |
Those who seek to rationalize irrational things said of God, serve
neither God nor truth!
THIS IS THE HOUSE OF BONDAGE-THIS IS THE LAND OF EGYPT
http://www.cjnetworks.com/~quixote
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i
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response 3 of 14:
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Nov 21 20:28 UTC 1998 |
Maybe i should have asked if there *is* a point....
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quixote
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response 4 of 14:
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Nov 22 01:18 UTC 1998 |
To those concerned:
The sole purpose of my post is to cause one to reflect upon the wicked
things that have been said of God! For it is troubling that those who
insist that Jesus is God, become offended when it is said that if Jesus
is God, then Jesus is responsible for certain Old Testament atrocities,
such as those in 1 SAMUEL 15:2-3. Yet, before these things are pointed
out to them, these very same people have had no problem in believing
that God has done these evil things!
FOR THIS IS THE HOUSE OF BONDAGE-THIS IS THE LAND OF EGYPT:
Those who claim the Bible is void of error accuse God of wicked things.
And those that seek to rationalize irrational things said of God, serve
neither God, nor the truth!
http://www.cjnetworks.com/~quixote
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mary
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response 5 of 14:
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Nov 22 11:53 UTC 1998 |
Welcome to Grex, Wayne!
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i
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response 6 of 14:
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Nov 22 20:09 UTC 1998 |
Well, the omnipotent, omnipresent, etc. God camp has to deal with God's
accessory-before-the-fact (at best) role in all the evil that happens in
the world. (Doesn't matter if they subscribe to the Allah, Father/Son/
Ghost, Lord of Israel, Hindu, or some other version of God - the problem's
the same.)
I don't remember ever meeting anyone with problems with Jesus =is= God
=who's_responsible_for= evil-sounding deeds, but there are probably
plenty of 'em out there. Are you saying that the Bible is wrong in
attributing certain actions to God, or that Jesus was a human super-
prophet or underGod, or anything along those lines?
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amikal
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response 7 of 14:
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Feb 27 07:10 UTC 1999 |
Well! It seems Everybody here, while discussing that Jesus is God or not,
agree on one point that something called God is there to exist. But is it
really true ? If you believe so, then what's the reason behind this belief
other than your faith itself. How did you start having faith in God ? Perhaps
your parents told you to do so, or may be your teachers guided you that way,
or quite possible that sometime you find yourself in trouble and found
nothing else than God to help you...but you never cared whether this
socalled God really helped you or some natural event solved your problem.
Have you ever questioned your guides(parents, teachers, priests etc.) about
existence of God ? Rare chances you did and even if you did, what response
did you get ?
So, is it not possible that everything about God is just an imagination and
we all are following it fearing wrath of God in case we question His powers,
or because we love that fiction-character so much believing that He only
created this world and us ? It's never been proved scintifically, logically
but emotionally and spiritually.
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lordseth
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response 8 of 14:
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Mar 7 03:23 UTC 1999 |
why was it called the *new* testament? because of the death/sacrifice
of the mortal part of Jesus we were forgiven of our sins thus a *new*
kind of dealing with sin was administered. we did not need such harsh
punishmints any more because before we were sinning without forgiveness.
this is my belief.
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mary
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response 9 of 14:
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Mar 7 12:47 UTC 1999 |
IF God makes the rules then why couldn't He have just forgiven
everyone and skipped the part about having His son tortured and
killed? Sounds overly dramatic to me.
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i
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response 10 of 14:
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Mar 7 21:24 UTC 1999 |
Read the bible. God is way more interested in drama, fiddling around
in human affairs, etc. than in economy of effort. (Human nature being
what it is, an quick&easy/drama-free scheme would attract very few
believers, and we're talking about one of the world's most popular
religions.)
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mary
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response 11 of 14:
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Mar 7 21:37 UTC 1999 |
Yeah, I see your point. It's just that the God of the Old Testament
behaves a whole lot like another fictional character we're all familiar
with, that of the obscenely wealthy and powerful old white man,
manipulative to extreme and eager for attention and obedience. Not
qualities I think of as worth admiring.
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happyboy
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response 12 of 14:
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Mar 7 22:18 UTC 1999 |
you mean god is like that guy in the
simpson's who owns the nuke-plant?
ok then...who is the biblical
"smithers" eh? hmm?
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stevb
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response 13 of 14:
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Apr 13 22:27 UTC 1999 |
God forgives us of our sin if and only if we are truly sorry for what
we have done and have seen the error of our ways.This I believe I was
taught in in school.
If we sin and are not repentant, then we will face eternal damnation in
hell. (ditto)
What sinner, facing the prospect of eternal damnation, would not be
truly sorry? What person , on finding out that god did infact exist,
would not be awestruck and ready to serve him, his true master?
Is it not logical then, to summise that no one would go to hell? Our
forgiving father would forgive them when they see the true light, would
he not? Does god set down a time frame for his forgivness? No penance
after the age of 80....90...death...? If so why? If not:
Therefore hell would serve no purpose but as a threat( to those who
believe) which would help keep check of human moral behaviour????
An adult version of the "the boogy man" story kids are told if they
don't go to bed, told to those of us who refuse to think by those of us
who are frightened the thoughts we might think!
Am I horribly wrong on this one or is it another example of the
hypocrytical, power hungery monster that is organised religion???
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i
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response 14 of 14:
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May 2 11:11 UTC 1999 |
Well, the "truly repent or burn forever" version of hell certainly makes
it easier for the high priests, kings, etc. to keep the serfs quiet and
in their place. The "natural response to a powerful being is awe and
eagerness to serve" and "who are we to question or understand the mighty
and the powerful?" attitudes so often seen in conservative religion also
strike me as manna from heaven to nourish & sustain the self-serving
humans at the top of the social pyramid.
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