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Grex > Poetry > #182: Shall we publish ourselves? (discussion, not a poem) | |
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lumen
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Shall we publish ourselves? (discussion, not a poem)
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Apr 6 00:11 UTC 2000 |
There have been some really excellent pieces of poetry here, and I
wonder if we should go about getting a publication made. Really.
Remmer's last effort just bowled me over, and it would be sad if that
poem, among many other fabulous ones, weren't published.
Comments? Suggestions?
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orinoco
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response 1 of 42:
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Apr 6 00:17 UTC 2000 |
Putting together a poetry conf. chapbook would be cool. In theory, we could
make int a Grex fundraiser, but in practice I doubt it would raise that much
fundage.
A collection of poems on the web would be another possibility.
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brighn
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response 2 of 42:
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Apr 6 03:58 UTC 2000 |
yeah, but if we make it up nice, we could auction a few copies =}
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orinoco
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response 3 of 42:
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Apr 6 17:57 UTC 2000 |
That's true, actually. I forgot about the auction conf.
In any case, I'd be happy to contribute some time and effort towards putting
something together, if this is something we decide we want to do.
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xcalibur
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response 4 of 42:
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Apr 7 02:56 UTC 2000 |
Sounds like an idea.
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arianna
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response 5 of 42:
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Apr 10 14:06 UTC 2000 |
whoa -- that's weird -- I was just thinking about this a few weeks ago, but
I wasn't able to get around to enacting upon the thought. I second the
motion. And if I can scrounge any free time, I'd be happy to assist.
First off, what would we like to put in the chapbook, and who will be the
deciding force behind that?
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orinoco
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response 6 of 42:
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Apr 10 17:04 UTC 2000 |
I think it'd be cool if each of us chose a poem or two to put in. Maybe we
could set up an item for reminding each other for favorites. But it'd be kind
of obnoxious for one person to pick and choose everything, especially since
the contributors and the compilers are the same people.
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arianna
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response 7 of 42:
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Apr 11 17:26 UTC 2000 |
All well and good, but what if EVERYONE wanted more than one poem? Should
I ask that you limit it to two poems or soemthing, and see what the turn out
woul dbe?
NExt question: how would we like to assemble this book? Handmade, or through
a publishing company? The latter would probably be more expensive, but less
time consumning for all parties involved. We could take orders, if people
were willing to chip in. (I would be.) There are some publishing companies
in the a2 area (I know, I used to work for one).
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orinoco
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response 8 of 42:
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Apr 11 17:58 UTC 2000 |
A two poem limit sounds decent to me. What would it cost to do this through
a publishing company -- do you know?
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arianna
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response 9 of 42:
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Apr 11 19:38 UTC 2000 |
<shrug> nope. that's why I'm asking.
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brighn
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response 10 of 42:
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Apr 11 21:57 UTC 2000 |
The middle option is to have a copy center do the binding. That's what
ConVocation did, once upon a time, when it had an "annual publication," and
I know others who do that. Drop the copy off, say how many copies you want
and how you want it bound.
The best recommendation for poetry would be center-stapled, 8.5 x 11 paper
(which makes an active page 4.5 wide by 7.5 long, assuming half-inch margins),
around, oh, 32 pages or so (that's 8 sheets of paper, with a ninth sheet for
a cover, probably in a thicker-weight)... I can't see going much fancier than
that, at least not for the first one. That would run maybe 80c for the
copying, unless they've really raised rates, and however much for the
stapling. All these numbers are just educated guesses.
If we wanted fancier, we could also go with spiral-bound, which isn't THAT
much more, but allows for an easier read.
It also depends on how many poems, and how long. I'd be more inclined to set
a limit at pages, not poems. Ginsberg Jr. might come along with Howl II and
take up 26 pages with a single poem, while cummings jr. might be able to put
four poems on facing pages.
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arianna
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response 11 of 42:
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Apr 11 22:45 UTC 2000 |
BLeh, plastic spiral binding... metal, however, is nice... Though most places
that I now of that do spiralbinding only use plastic.
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orinoco
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response 12 of 42:
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Apr 12 02:04 UTC 2000 |
Spiral binding also makes less sense with pages as small as Paul suggests --
I've usually seen it done on full 8 1/2 x 11 pages, which are a bit big and
bulky for a project this size. And it costs a good bit more than stapling,
IIRC.
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redanjel
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response 13 of 42:
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Apr 12 11:44 UTC 2000 |
ok, I've sort of been gone for a while - is this publication actually going
ahead? or are these just "ideas"?
I agree with the guy who said "page-limit" indtead of poem limit, and I'd be
happy to help where I can :)
cheers.
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remmers
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response 14 of 42:
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Apr 12 17:32 UTC 2000 |
Just ideas at this stage, since lumen only posted this item a week ago.
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lumen
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response 15 of 42:
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Apr 12 22:51 UTC 2000 |
and Erinn has been thinking of it as well.
(have to give credit where credit is due, since that can be accounted
in the drive behind this project)
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arianna
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Apr 12 23:55 UTC 2000 |
hey, we're all involved; I imagine the thought was floating around, sinc eit
occured to three people in the same period of time, even if it wasn't
discussed till now.
spiral is nixed with small paper. Though I lie boolet sized for something
made with a computer and a printer/copier, I would like to do something fun
and unique. Maybe spend a few exptra bucs and use handmade (or that looks
handmade) paper.
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orinoco
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response 17 of 42:
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Apr 13 00:30 UTC 2000 |
(Hey, Erinn, check your "k" key....)
One other thing that occurred to me is whether we want to try to contact
ex-poetry-ites to see if they want to be included, or whether we want to stick
with current members.
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arianna
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response 18 of 42:
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Apr 14 20:42 UTC 2000 |
oh yeah, good point -- maybe we could con jenna into submitting. (;
perhaps we should post/link this item to agora to call back anyone who's
posted in the past?
(my K is screwed up -- it's the computer's keyboard here at work, I have to
pound on the damn thing to make it function, and when I'm in a hurry, I type
lightly.)
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ponder
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response 19 of 42:
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Apr 24 03:19 UTC 2000 |
If we actually do this, is there any chance that some of those of us who
live outside of Michigan might possibly have accessw to a copy or two?
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brighn
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response 20 of 42:
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Apr 24 03:59 UTC 2000 |
No! It's ours, all ours! Muahahahahahahahahaha!
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lumen
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response 21 of 42:
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Apr 25 00:33 UTC 2000 |
shaddap!
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brighn
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response 22 of 42:
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Apr 25 14:23 UTC 2000 |
*looks down* yessir...
I guess y'all out-of-staters can have copies...
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arianna
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response 23 of 42:
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Apr 25 15:29 UTC 2000 |
So -- should we collect funds for this adventure? Who shall we elect as
treasurer? And have we decided to publish via Kinko's or delve into some
other resource?
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flem
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Apr 25 20:31 UTC 2000 |
It might be worth deciding what exactly we want to publish and in what format
before we do things like collect money and shop for ways to do it.
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