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35mm Compact Cameras Mark Unseen   Mar 10 06:48 UTC 2006

Just point and shoot...
49 responses total.
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response 1 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 06:49 UTC 2006

While I'm getting practice in with a borrowed SLR, I am
thinking of adding a 35mm compact camera to my collection.
Has anyone here tried the Pentax IQZoom 120SW?
rcurl
response 2 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 17:53 UTC 2006

Why are you sticking to film and not going digital? (I know some reasons, but
I'd like to get a wider sampling of opinions on this question.)
ball
response 3 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 18:09 UTC 2006

My wife recently bought a new digital camera.  The
convenience of being able to see the picture straight away
is nice, and it's quicker when we want to email pictures to
people.  A few years back I might have said that I wanted
film for the resolution, today I could just about scrape
together the excuse that it would enable me to learn how to
develop black and white film.  I have a suspicion that light
paints differently on film than on a CCD, but I'm too new at
this to know for sure.
rcurl
response 4 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 21:49 UTC 2006

I take mostly slides and I can argue for better resolution for those, although
with everyone going to Power Point one often cannot use slides for
presentations at meetings anymore. Of course, one can scan slides, but then
the digital projectors are very expensive and don't do any better a job than
projecting the slides. So I'm still in the muddle of deciding what I will do.
ball
response 5 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 11 05:08 UTC 2006

I did think about slides as I composed my reply to your
question.  I don't currently have a slide projector though,
so that would have been too tenuous an excuse even for me!
;-)
rcurl
response 6 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 11 06:41 UTC 2006

They are probably pretty cheap on ebay, now. 
ball
response 7 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 11 16:48 UTC 2006

I'm wary of buying anything on eBay these days.  There's the
hassle of cheques lost in the mail and then I recieve stuff
that's broken or has parts missing.  :-/
rcurl
response 8 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 11 20:34 UTC 2006

Did you check feedback for all the sellers? I've been pleased with all my ebay
purchases. Also, ask questions of the sellers.
ball
response 9 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 11 23:36 UTC 2006

Yes, the sellers' feedback was almost entirely positive.
With something as complex as a camera, I'm going to buy it
new anyway. I've had horribly bad luck with second-hand 35mm
SLRs in the past that almost put me off photography.
ball
response 10 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 03:27 UTC 2006

...as things turned out, it just put me of 35mm for a while.

I'm interested in what people here think about the idea of
carrying a 35mm compact.  I hope that it will let me work on
things like basic composition and enable me to take some
pictures that 'come out' to offset disappointing results
while I'm learning how to drive the SLR.
rcurl
response 11 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 05:47 UTC 2006

I used a 35 mm SLR for quite some time but then bought a pretty compact
autofocus that was easier to carry - and also waterproof. I pretty much
have my SLR in storage except for copying.
eprom
response 12 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 17:24 UTC 2006

I don't get it, what exactly about the SLR, were you disappointed in?
In what way didn't your pictures come out?

I used to have a compact automatic 35mm camera, before I got my manual
35mm SLR. The compact is just too limited in the what it can do. Now I 
don't think I could ever go back to using one.

I found the best way to improve learning composition is to get yourself
a nice tripod (with a ball-socket head not the pan-tilt version). It 
lets you really slow down and analyze the entire frame, before you take 
the picture.
rcurl
response 13 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 18:18 UTC 2006

In my case it was a change in my photographic purposes. I spent years 
taking "arty" (to me) photographs, had a darkroom, etc., but eventually 
that wore off and I needed primarily documentary photographs. Of course 
there is composition and lighting at issue for documentation, but not to 
the extent in photography for primarily images (when you analyze the 
frame, as you say).

Also, the SLR was burdensome and awkward when skiing and too delicate for 
caving and sailing.
ball
response 14 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 01:30 UTC 2006

Re #12: When I was a lad I saved up for a while to buy a
  second-hand SLR.  I also bought a tripod, flash, 135mm
  telephoto lense and a friend and I clubbed together to buy
  a 2x teleconverter.  It took me a few rolls of film and
  quite a bit of time to convince myself that there was a
  genuine problem with the camera.  The bottom half of each
  frame came out after a fassion, the top half was always
  dark.  I took the camera back to the shop where I'd bought
  it but the man there denied all knowlege and refused to
  take it back.  I was just a kid and had no recourse.
  Eventually I gave away the rest of my gear to people who
  could use it.

  I bought another SLR at a yard sale, sold as working, but
  appears to be jammed.  I still have that one somewhere
  along with a polarising filter that I bought for it.

  Thanks for the tip regarding ball-and-socket tripods, I'll
  look for one of those.

Re #13: What do you sail?  Is there a sailing conference
  here on Grex?
rcurl
response 15 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 02:24 UTC 2006

I have a 12' Ray Green Green "Slipper" sloop - it has 110 ft^2 main and a
jib, so even though it is short, it is pretty yare. At the moment it is in
need of some repair and rerigging, so I'm looking forward to spring to
work on it. There is no sailing conference on Grex. 
ball
response 16 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 05:03 UTC 2006

I think there should be :-)
nharmon
response 17 of 49: Mark Unseen   Apr 28 19:47 UTC 2006

My reason to stay with 35mm:  Digital is $$$++

Seriously, I love my Canon EOS SLR. I can take decent photos with it 
and they come up just fine. The digital equivilent is still out of my 
price range. Maybe some day. And since I don't take photographs often, 
I can't justify the savings on film.
ball
response 18 of 49: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 00:18 UTC 2006

I like the convenience of my wife's digital camera, but I
like the flexibility of an SLR. It's a shame one has to sell
body parts on eBay to buy a DSLR though.
ball
response 19 of 49: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 03:53 UTC 2006

I fired off an experimental roll of film on a borrowed
Pentax MV 35mm SLR today.  It will be interesting to see if
any of the pictures come out.
ball
response 20 of 49: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 19:50 UTC 2006

I'm fairly sure that the film in the Pentax MV came un-
spooled.  I'm not equipped to deal with that, so I may just
have to open the back and discard the film.  Of course, the
same might happen with another roll of film, but I won't
know unless I put one in there.  Did I mention that I don't
get on well with 35mm cameras?  :-/
eprom
response 21 of 49: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 04:37 UTC 2006

how do you know? does the counter still advance? Did it come unspooled from
the takeup reel or the canister?
ball
response 22 of 49: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 04:59 UTC 2006

From the canister I think, because I can't seem to wind it
back in.  When I get home I'll check whether the counter
advances.  It wouldn't be so bad if I knew someone locally
who was adept with cameras.
gull
response 23 of 49: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 02:56 UTC 2006

If you take it to a photo shop, they can open the camera in a darkroom 
for you and recover the film.
ball
response 24 of 49: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 06:36 UTC 2006

Re #23: that might have been even more embarrassing than
  this admission: I took the offending camera into the
  darkest room in the house at night, with no lights on.  I
  popped the back and fealt for the film.

     ( Hmm... that's odd I can't feel the film!  Perhaps  )
     ( it went back into the can after all!  Hang on, why )
  .oO( can't I feel the can?!                             )

  I flick the light on and sure enough: I'd somehow omitted
  to load the camera with film.  I loaded it up with Kodak T
  -Max 400, because I found some laying around.

  In the mean time, I fired off a roll of colour negative
  film in an old Minolta. I should know on Wednesday whether
  any of those pictures came out.
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