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waterrat
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Kids and Television
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May 16 00:05 UTC 1998 |
I passed by a college dormitory recently and was surprised by the number of
college students glued to the television in their rooms. I suppose that
habits must start young. I wouldn't want my own children to have such habits
though. How do you keep kids from spending their entire lives in front of
the television? What other activities can you offer them that are more
interactive and more healthy, in terms of exercise, instead of sitting?
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n8nxf
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response 1 of 22:
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May 16 10:19 UTC 1998 |
Parents, or any one else, becoming a replacement for TV is not the
answer. Nor is ferrying them around to various activities. TV is a
pacifier. To ween a child from a pacifier you take it away and put
up with complaints for a while. Same goes for TV. Leave the rest
up to the child. As a parent it is your responsibility to be sure
that they take up socially acceptable, parent acceptable, activities.
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mary
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response 2 of 22:
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May 16 11:53 UTC 1998 |
Read to your child from the very beginning and continue
reading until the child sees books as a basic part of
a day, a form of relaxation and enrichment.
Readers get bored with television pretty quickly.
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mta
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response 3 of 22:
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May 17 14:47 UTC 1998 |
Not having one in the house works very well, too.
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kami
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response 4 of 22:
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May 18 06:04 UTC 1998 |
If kids get used to the idea that a family is a communal unit- that TV is a
shared activity of used at all- then they won't really want or enjoy a TV that
is watched alone in their room, by college. Doesn't the dorm lounge have
one?
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jep
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response 5 of 22:
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May 18 13:20 UTC 1998 |
TV isn't a big part of our family life. We read every night, we go
outside and do things, we often do some kind of activity over the
weekend. We went to the Tulip Festival in Holland over the past
weekend, for example. Our 7 year old is in sports programs; this spring
he's playing baseball, and we go outside and play baseball in the
backyard quite a lot. Our 2 year old isn't interested in TV, so he's
not hard to divert.
It helps a lot that we can't get cable and don't have a dish, and so TV
reception is often pretty bad, even if we do turn it on. We're moving
in a couple of weeks, and won't even have an outside antenna, so we'll
only get the TV we can get with rabbit ears. It's the next best thing
to Misti's solution.
We've often wondered how anyone can have a family life, and also find 6
hours a day to watch TV, as I guess 'average' families do. We're out of
touch with the popular culture, and I couldn't be happier.
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void
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response 6 of 22:
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May 21 04:06 UTC 1998 |
mta has a point. not owning a tv is a good way to keep the habit
from forming.
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waterrat
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response 7 of 22:
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May 23 01:02 UTC 1998 |
I don't have a t.v. and don't plan on ever getting one, but I've been warned
that children will complain once they realize all of their friends have t.v.'s
at home if they don't. Now, if any of you know of an entire neighborhood
where nobody owns a t.v., let me know and I'll think about moving there.
Otherwise, how do you deal with the issue? It's easy for you to say to a
child that you don't believe the t.v. is worth it to have in your own home.
Somehow I'm not sure what the next course of action is when the kid throws
fits over the matter though. I haven't personally met a household with kids
and no t.v. and leading the trend is bound to be difficult. Reading to the
child is a very good idea that I'll have to keep in mind.
Re: #4 Depends on the college. When I was in college, we had 540 people in
one dorm and three t.v.'s so unless you were motivated to fight for it, you
didn't watch it. But the campus I recently visited, I saw dorm suites, shared
by four students each, have a t.v. in them.
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valerie
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response 8 of 22:
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May 23 02:18 UTC 1998 |
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mta
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response 9 of 22:
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May 24 17:28 UTC 1998 |
I raised my kids without television until the younger one was 10 -- by then,
the kids knew all kinds of ways to amuse themselves. After that, I tried to
encourage them to watch "good TV" -- with cable there's plenty. After a year
or so of that encouragement, I let them go and watch whatever they wanted.
I figured they'd do it anyway eventually, and I had done what I could to
influence their tastes. It seems to have worked. One watches almost no TV
and the other watches some -- but has pretty good taste in what he watches.
(I did have to live through several months of biting my toungue when they
watches utter dreck just because they could, thogh.
Yeah, they fuss a bit about no TV but frankly i\f it wasn't about TV it's be
about something else. Kids fuss. I just explained my reasons and that was
the end of it.
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davel
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May 24 18:11 UTC 1998 |
Our kids don't complain about no TV - it's my mother who really thinks we're
depriving them. (OTOH, lest you get the wrong idea ... when we visit my
folks, the kids spend an awful lot of time in front of the TV, and have been
known when back home to wish they could see some specific programs they
see at their grandparents'.)
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gracel
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response 11 of 22:
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May 24 20:18 UTC 1998 |
Our boys have been known to say that they wished we had a TV. But it's not
a big deal, Jonathan has *much* more often wished for a better computer or
for a computer of his own! And they lead full lives without one, including
a few friends who come over here to play. They wouldn't watch so much TV
at the grandparents' house if that situation were more child-oriented;
Grammie *expects* them to watch.
I grew up without a TV; when I was about 15 my grandparents gave my parents
some money to help purchase one, and my father chose to spend the money on
a nonfunctioning second-hand one that he fixed up (one tube had to be
twiddled periodically). My sister and I watched _The Man from U.N.C.L.E._
and _Get Smart_, and occasionally something else -- I remember the
Rodgers & Hammerstein _Cinderella_, I stayed up a little late to watch the
end of that even though it was the night before some final exams in high
school. We kept the TV in the basement then; years later I was surprised to see
that it had moved upstairs.
My view of the here-and-now situation is that I don't think they're evil,
I just don't want one in my home taking up precious space & tempting my
husband to watch it. Our lives are too full already. I wish I could
borrow some of the average American's television time, to catch up on
sleep or mending or something.
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waterrat
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response 12 of 22:
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May 27 16:02 UTC 1998 |
Putting a t.v. in a place where activity is not centered is probably a good
option. I suppose I would want some sort of t.v. and VCR eventually, as I
find it amusing to watch videos of me and my siblings at a younger age, and
I'd like to film my own kids someday. But there is a lot of stuff out there
that I wouldn't want a younger child, who can't discriminate well, to be
watching.
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n8nxf
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response 13 of 22:
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May 28 10:48 UTC 1998 |
Our TV is in the basement. It's a good 5' off the ground, going up to
7' for the VCR. Our kids watch little TV as there are always chores
that need to be seen to and they have both become very addicted to books.
I'm sure our collection of childrens books outweighs the TV and VCR
several times over. They are also getting very good with the Legos and
Erector sets.
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jep
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response 14 of 22:
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May 28 14:20 UTC 1998 |
re #7 about kids complaining if there's no TV in the house... how do you
handle your kids asking for anything that someone else has?
Some of our neighbors have ATVs, motorcycles, Jet Skis, and one family
has a motorized tricycle for their 5 year old. My kids have cousins who
have phones and TVs in their rooms. My kids don't have these things,
and won't any time soon. We do have TV (but no cable or dish). They
complain about everything they want and don't have. Kids do that. We
say "no". Parents do *that*. (-:
Sometimes we say "Well, then, save up your allowance and get it
(whatever 'it' is) if you want it". It's an awful thing, I've found, to
give up all the $1 and $5 toys the 7 year old can buy with a $4/week
allowance, in order to save for something more expensive.
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johnnie
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Jun 24 15:09 UTC 1998 |
We have a Little One on the way, and one of the things we've discussed
as to his/her upbringing is future TV policy. One of the things we've
noticed with friends and neighbors of ours is that some of their kids
watch LOTS of television; one friend recently bought her
four-year-old(!) her *own* TV/VCR ("Well, it's only a 13-inch set...",
she said), and another's kids for whom we sometimes sit want to do
nothing but watch videos, and probably have a hundred and fifty or more
(but we make them turn it off and play games or color or whatever with
us; Mom will invariably ask us a couple days later what we did to her
kids, as they had been so calm and well-behaved for at least the next 24
hours after our visit). Another thing we've noticed is that kids'
television programs are mostly awful--they are generally insipid and/or
violent (which is to say: they're a lot like adult television). Plus,
they're one big commercial--even PBS shows fill the toy stores with
"product".
As mentioned in previous posts, more important than banning television
is teaching the kids "healthy" viewing habits; they're going to
encounter television sooner or later, so they might as well be prepared
(kind of like sex education--if you don't teach them and don't talk
about it, they'll try to learn on their own, and probably make
mistakes). So, we decided that our rule will be strict limitation of
television viewing, with restrictions on both time and content.
In practice, I think the rule will work something along the lines of
"you can only watch while we watch." This will accomplish a few things:
1)if they can only watch while we watch, they won't be watching much, as
my wife and I don't watch much teevee 2)if we're right next to them as
they watch, we can bring up points for discussion/education, or simply
invoke our parental censorship rights if the content turns violent or
otherwise unacceptable, and 3)family togetherness is always good.
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kami
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response 16 of 22:
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Jun 25 21:38 UTC 1998 |
I like your plan. In practice, I use the "one eyed babysitter" way too much,
as the boys tend to wake up before we do. There are some programs that I
really like- the human-content of Sesame Street is really good, although the
instructional level is too young for them now, and I'd watch Reading Rainbow
all on my own. I would *not* give kids their own set- it separates the
family, and most of our videos do happen to be more for the boys but I picked
them out. We don't buy "television toys" and they are perfectly happy with
that policy. I didn't want them to see "Toy Story" since it seemed one big
marketing ploy. Sure enough, they saw it often at a friend's house, and the
little one made some tentative efforts to get me to consider a)buying the
movie and b)buying the toys. Didn't last long...They've been playing "their
own version" of Star Wars in the car for a couple of weeks now, and it really
is pretty creative and cooperative despite the number of "star destroyers"
they've blown up <g>, so I don't complain. They even ask me to take parts
in it. Awww...(doting mom, ick!) I made the mistake of taking them to see
Disney's Hercules, even though I knew it would be awful. Then we talked about
what is wrong with it. They got the point. We also talk about the ways in
which commercials are lying to us, which shows are just long commercials (some
of the recent "school house rock" bits, for example), etc. so I think they
are learning some judgment. Good armor for a scary world.
When's your wee one due?
Best of luck.
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johnnie
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response 17 of 22:
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Jun 29 16:05 UTC 1998 |
(The Little One is due any day now. July 5th, officially, but who's to
say for sure? We're just waitin'...)
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kami
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response 18 of 22:
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Jul 1 07:06 UTC 1998 |
Hope labour is uneventful. Enjoy the process, it's a big part of what we're
made for. Keep us posted...
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valerie
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response 19 of 22:
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Jul 11 13:28 UTC 1998 |
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johnnie
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response 20 of 22:
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Jul 17 08:53 UTC 1998 |
I posted an announcement in Agora yesterday, but since you asked: Emily
Rose Hofmann was born at 7:23pm on July 9, 1998. She came into the
world butt-first (via C-section, much to the chagrin of my lovely wife),
measuring 19 3/4 inches and weighing 7 pounds 9.6 ounces. She's
gorgeous and wonderful and perfect and she very obviously loves her
Daddy. She does seem to like staying up most of the night though, as
the time stamp on this post will indicate....
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valerie
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Jul 17 15:31 UTC 1998 |
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mta
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response 22 of 22:
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Jul 17 22:00 UTC 1998 |
She'll eventually learn about sleeping at night, Johnnie. ;) Honest.
Congratulations!
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