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davel
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Home Schooling?
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Apr 21 14:46 UTC 1994 |
This is intended to continue a thread from another item (the high-school one).
Here's what has been entered so far. If you have any input on home schooling,
as a parent/teacher or as a student, we'd like to hear about it.
>#90 You Wish (wish) (Wed, Apr 20, 1994 (19:47)):
> my mom wants to start working again, so I will have to go to a "real" school
> in the fall, unless my mom changes her mind. I don't think I'm going to get
> into Community, and Pioneer really scares me. My parents don't want to pay
> for private schooling because it would be cheaper for my mom to do it
> herself. I talked to indi, and he suggested Huron valley. is Huron valley
> a high school? is it expensive?
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>#91 Valerie Mates (popcorn) (Thu, Apr 21, 1994 (06:11)):
> Are you doing home schooling now? Do you like it? Is it a good alternative
> for most people? Do you miss having classmates? Do you feel you're getting
> a good education? Why did your family choose home schooling?
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>#92 Dave Lovelace (davel) (Thu, Apr 21, 1994 (09:41)):
> I too would be interested in your answers to all those questions. Also to
> anything you can say that might be relevant for parents considering home
> schooling. (Your viewpoint on your parents' viewpoint, so to speak.)
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> In fact, in the hope that we can get enough response to make hijacking the
> high-school item a problem, I'm going to add an item for this one topic.
> If you'd be good enough to expound at length, please answer in (I think)
> item 43.
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davel
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response 1 of 53:
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Apr 21 14:51 UTC 1994 |
I admit to particular interest as we have a first-grader and another coming
to that point in a couple of years. My own perception is that home schooling
is generally excellent, partly because those willing to go through with
it are knowledgeable & motivated people, but that it is a ***lot*** of work.
Even though you only have one or two (or 3 or 4 or ... ) to teach, it's
a full-time job; and then there's the bureaucratic interface with the state
to worry about. But I haven't done it myself, and would like more info.
Anyone?
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vidar
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response 2 of 53:
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Apr 22 01:05 UTC 1994 |
Home schooling could be quite annoying to the victim... uh... I mean...
Student.
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kami
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response 3 of 53:
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Apr 22 05:31 UTC 1994 |
I had always figured I'd home-school my kids if their personalities and/or
abilities warranted it, but in actual practice I don't think I have the
patience. There are so many ages at which a kid is likely to listen to
anyone BUT mom and dad...
Anyway, I had always imagined working with at least one other home-schooling
family so that a.) the kids were not isolated, b.) we could pool our talents
and interests so the kids got a positive view of all subect areas and
c.) to keep from throttling the kids when they were busily pushing all of
mom's buttons.
I worry about people home-schooling for the "wrong" reasons: to limit their
kids' exposure to other points of view or ways of living, rather than in
order to give them the richest possible range of experience. This could
lead to serious cultural polarization in the worst case, and in other cases,
kids who really aren't prepared for real life.
But I still think it's a neat idea if one is capable and creative enough.
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davel
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response 4 of 53:
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Apr 22 09:58 UTC 1994 |
Patience is definitely a big issue for this.
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scg
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response 5 of 53:
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Apr 22 21:19 UTC 1994 |
smalls 43 is now linked to genx 24.
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cicero
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response 6 of 53:
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Apr 23 07:08 UTC 1994 |
re #3:
I have a family member who home schooled his kids for just those negative
reasons. I believe he wanted to limit their exposure to outside perspectives
because he is afraid that they would pick up ideas to challenge his strict
religeous teachings.
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katie
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response 7 of 53:
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Apr 23 17:06 UTC 1994 |
I'm pretty sure I would never want my kids to be home-schooled, and I'm glad
I wasn't.
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robc
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response 8 of 53:
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Apr 26 06:50 UTC 1994 |
Maybe the school setting is good. Meeting and dealing with others is, for
sure, a skill needed to LIVE today.
BUT there are situations that warrant keeping kids OUT of school. Medical
problems (broken legs, disease, etc) where maybe homework could be done
WITH the other students over a computer.
I think teaching kids math, literature, arts, history, and the like should
be left to those who specialize in such subjects and those who LEARNED how
to TEACH. Other valuable skills should be taught at home. Street smarts,
cooking, personal finance, laundry, shopping (yes, shopping), and
mechanical understanding are all things that can be taught by those NOT in
a school setting. I know *I* didn't learn to change my oil from school.
..OR how to wash clothes. ...OR how to know when my pancakes are done.
Know what I mean?
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gracel
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response 9 of 53:
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Apr 26 14:17 UTC 1994 |
I know a little about 2 parents who home schooled. In one case, the
child for some reason was *miserable* in school -- a very friendly,
vivacious child, maybe she just couldn't adapt to that teacher's
preferred style. They kept her out about a year & a half, I think.
In the other case, they wanted to send their kids to a particular
Christian school but couldn't afford it. After a year or so of home
schooling they settled on a different school that didn't cost as much --
and in the interim one of the children, who had been seriously behind in
arithmetic, more than caught up to his grade level. His home teacher
was primarily his mother, totally un"qualified" as a teacher (no college
education at all).
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cicero
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response 10 of 53:
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Apr 27 06:38 UTC 1994 |
IMHO education degrees are highly overrated.
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kami
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response 11 of 53:
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Apr 27 16:27 UTC 1994 |
right. it's what you do with one that matters.
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aaron
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response 12 of 53:
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Apr 30 14:18 UTC 1994 |
re #10: IMHO, *most* degrees are highly overrated.
I think the best "solution," if you are truly concerned about public
schools, is to do what mythago's parents did -- start your own school.
Costs are shared, and you get a professional teacher in charge. (They
went with Montessori.)
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davel
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Apr 30 17:35 UTC 1994 |
Re #12:
- agreed very strongly with your first point
- on starting your own school: this at least takes a certain kind of
personality, willing and able to pour work into organizing things (as
opposed to *doing* them). There are many such people, & I don't fault
them in any way at all; but certainly I personally am not such a person.
If getting anything done requires *my* motivating & coordinating other
people, it's guaranteed not to get done. (Of course, you may well find
other people already starting a school.)
The advantages you mention are certainly real, though; although there are
probably added costs as well as sharing of the existing ones.
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park
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response 14 of 53:
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Apr 30 20:18 UTC 1994 |
i used to home-school, until i moved to florida, but when i was i thought is
er...it ok.
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aaron
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Apr 30 20:59 UTC 1994 |
re #13: It takes "a certain kind of personality" to home school properly,
as well. I didn't say it was for everybody, but I do believe it
is a better alternative. Hey -- if you can gather a bunch of
parents and make it a group effort, the initial steps may not be
as hard as you imagine.
Added costs, of course, include the financial. No professional
school will be as potentially inexpensive as a home school.
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gracel
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May 1 21:45 UTC 1994 |
re #15, re #13 -- "gather a bunch of parents and make it a group
effort" is exactly the initial steps that davel was labeling as
impossible. Make that "If you happen to fall in with a bunch of
parents ..." & it might befcome possible.
Anyway, if I wanted to homeschool in the Ann Arbor area, I
would consult Clonlara.
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aaron
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response 17 of 53:
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May 6 22:54 UTC 1994 |
I hope, in that case, that davel doesn't want my sympathies.
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canis
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response 18 of 53:
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Jun 5 20:32 UTC 1994 |
<Warning Warning School Advertisement Warning Warning>
Well if you want to learn more about some of the advantages of homeschool,
and if it is right for you and your family, call Clonlara School Home Based
Education Program, at 769-4511. If you live in the Ann Arbor area and are
worried about your childs social life, but still think that "normal" schools
are not for you, ask about Clonlara's Campus School, call at 769-4511, the
school is K-12, Tuition is currently set $3,500 per year. Either way it
allows you to expand your child's education, and get away from "normal" schools
<Thank you for your time>
FYI I am currently enrolled in Clonlara at the Campus School, and this being
my first year, I must say I had a great time. Because of Clonlara I was able
to do things I would never have thought of doing at public school. This year
alone we went to Japan, for two weeks, and then with our Japanese friends we
travled in the U.S. for two more weeks. I really encourage anyone who wants
to learn, but not have to put with some of the requirements of public school.
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roz
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Jun 13 18:24 UTC 1994 |
People either involved in homeschooling, interested in it, or
just not completely happy with what's available now, might be interested
in a new charter public school.
It's called Noah Webster Academy, and will be serving students
K-12 throughout Michigan. With the funding received from the state
(it's a charter public school, remember) they will purchase curriculum
materials, plus a computer for every two students in a given family.
Much of the instruction will take place by modem; the teachers are
certified, I'm sure. Let's see, what else did I hear . . . Oh, yes,
the costs of instruction will come nowhere near to the per pupil
subsidy, since overhead costs are so low. So the remainder will be
available to the family for educational expenses, such as field
trips, software, etc. There's been some talk that whatever is left
will be put into an escrow fund for the student's post-secondary
education expenses, but I can't remember if that's certain or just
at the discussion stage. It sure sounded intriguing to me -- very
creative, and a great thing for the right family. We're just not
the right family.
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mta
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response 20 of 53:
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Jun 14 02:27 UTC 1994 |
This sounds fascinating...where do I write to find out more?
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popcorn
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response 21 of 53:
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Jun 14 11:15 UTC 1994 |
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kami
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response 22 of 53:
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Jun 16 20:05 UTC 1994 |
Where do I write to get on the curriculum committee?! Neatness!
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mta
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response 23 of 53:
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Jun 18 23:47 UTC 1994 |
I read in the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday that this school is run by
the religious right and will teach creationism alongside evolution, among
other things. Tell me it's not so!!!
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popcorn
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Jun 19 11:54 UTC 1994 |
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