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kami
The babysitters' Club Mark Unseen   Feb 4 04:47 UTC 1994

I'd like to start an item about babysitting.  Are you looking for a sitter?
Do you have a favorite sitter who might like some more business?  Are you 
willing to sit (non parents) or do a co-op swap (parents)?  What special tips
do you have for making a kid-free outing a pleasant experience for everyone?
Any favorite stories?      This might also be a good place to talk about
day care providers and experiences.  Happy hunting!
48 responses total.
davel
response 1 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 10:52 UTC 1994

I have quite a story.  We don't go out or anything very much, but a while
back (2+ years ago) we had a Friday-evening-&-all-day-Saturday conference
we wanted to go to.  So Grace asked the older sister of someone in Jonathan's
(then) preschool to babysit.  Saturday night, after we had paid her and taken
her home, we discovered that she had done the dishes, (I think) vacuumed
a couple of rooms - not sure quite what else, as if that isn't enough.  No
prior discussion, no extra pay, she never said anything.  This is a really
precious memory.  (Grace mentioned it to her mother, who said something
like: this is Melanie?  She never does housework at *home*!)

The other one, several years earlier, that comes to mind is not so nice.
We had a weekly evening event, & had a neighbor girl babysit regularly.
After a while we found we were missing a couple of books of stamps.  Then
a calculator and a cheap portable tape player.
popcorn
response 2 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 14:46 UTC 1994

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davel
response 3 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 15:05 UTC 1994

(*Our* kids have usually been excited to be left with someone else.)
kami
response 4 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 16:47 UTC 1994

Timothy went through the usual periods of not liking to be left, or of token
fusses just til mom was out of sight, but we've played "pass the baby" with
him since almost before he was born, so his circle was "mom and all the people
she trustst" rather than just mama and papa.  He loves adult attention and sees
new people as fans in the making.  He's made fans of most of the add
adults he's ever met.  Gareth, on the other hand... I've tried nursing and
cuddling before leaving, staying 'til he was engaged with something, giving
him a snack as I left (worked for Tim), just saying goodbye and going, etc. He
is just now starting to be contented for a short time with familiar people if
he's engaged with something and I go out.  I haven't dared to try a stranger.
He knows one person and her house and is contented there, but so far only that
one, and she's not always available.  We don't need solutions, we need a
miracle. !  Oops, there's that return key again: short pinkies- I don't reach
all the way to delete every time, sigh.  

Who remembers their favorite babysitter from there own childhood?
gracel
response 5 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 01:52 UTC 1994

From my own childhood?  My parents did *not* go out in the evenings,
and I only once remember being left with a sitter of an afternoon.
She was a pleasant middle-aged woman who read us a book about some
cowboy, that's all I remember.
        More recently: Dave's recollection of Melanie is correct.
She *cleaned* the kitchen, including dishes, vacuuming the floor, and
bringing order to the COUNTERS!  Ditto the "dining" room, I think.
She may well have been accustomed to more obstreperous kids than ours,
and felt bored with time on her hands -- also no TV to watch.  If she
lived in the next block instead of at least 5 miles out in the country,
she would still be in our household budget every week or so.
        However, being human, Dave has forgotten something else.
Our two have not *always* been happy to be left.  The very first time
we went anywhere without Jonathan (he was just over 8 months and we
went to a G&S matinee) he cried the whole time we were gone.  After
that he didn't mind so much, and eventually we found an excellent
sitter for him whose coming he looked forward to.  With Paul we have
had many fewer child-excluded engagements, but during the first year
of his life I had to keep an ear cocked  even when I left him in the
church nursery -- sometimes sobs were token and quickly ended, but
when they came from the heart only Mommy would do, and it was easier
for everybody to have Mommy come back for a few minutes (and maybe
take him into the service for a while) than to suffer 30 minutes of
heartbroken screaming and then summon Mommy after all.  I always
wondered if this related to his neonatal experience (6 weeks premature,
3 days intensive care, 3 weeks special care) or if it was just his
personality or his allergic indispositions.
        As for babysitting myself -- sounds like a great idea.  We
live in Milan, most Grexers don't, so during the school year this
would not be practical.  Maybe during the summer we could have a
Grex playgroup.
kami
response 6 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 06:20 UTC 1994

like the playgroup idea.  Kids of comparatively educated parents sometimes
have trouble finding a "peergroup".
I remember clinging to my mom and asking her not to go, then settling down and
enjoying the gentle older woman who smelled comfortable and taught me card 
games.  Later, I remember asking to "babysit myself", being unable to resist
the TV, and rushing guiltily to turn it off just as I heard the key in the
door.  Of course my folks found it still warm and me faking sleep, but they
didn't usually bother to comment.
We took Timothy with us most places, being more willing to take turns waling
him if needed than willing/able (in rural Vermont) to find a suitable sitter.
I don't like to use kids for an infant. (whoa- that was walking, not waling!)
With two, it's rather harder, and Gareth is both wiggly and talky- not good
for concerts.  I think we do him a disservice by not accustoming him to public
manners from the start, but I haven't the fortitude. Nor the money to buy a 
third ticket to a concert so Timothy can come. Sigh.
popcorn
response 7 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 14:34 UTC 1994

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kami
response 8 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 17:53 UTC 1994

doesn't lack of a TV make it hard to get return engagements? >:}
davel
response 9 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 18:23 UTC 1994

Actually, we really rarely go out anywhere without the kids.  The reasons
for this are many & varied, but among them are penury, general lack of
energy, and preference for reading over other forms of entertainment.
(Bibliophiles who are also low-energy types should *not* get married to
each other unless they *want* to stay home all the time. 8-{)> )

During one period when we had a weekly meeting to go to & a regular sitter,
she sometimes brought a portable TV.
kami
response 10 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 19:01 UTC 1994

that's depressing- being unable to entertain herself for a couple of hours. At
least she found a solution.
gracel
response 11 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 02:01 UTC 1994

The first time I think it was because she was supposed to watch
something for school (she was only about 14).  After that I suspect
she brought it because she remembered that Jonathan had enjoyed it,
but it wasn't a regular thing and they were never watching it when
we came home.  More often jumping on the mini-trampoline.
        
davel
response 12 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 02:28 UTC 1994

Yes, I don't think "unable to entertain herself" is correct in this case.
I have known kids that age for whom it seems to be.  (Ingrid was really
neat.  Is, I should say, though we don't see her much these days.)
kami
response 13 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 06:32 UTC 1994

sorry, a bit of residual cynicism leaking in.
vidar
response 14 of 48: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 00:01 UTC 1994

I would be willing to BE a sitter for anyone who is interested.  I can't
work on Mondays or Wednesdays.  I can't work any time next week.
Name: Bjorn Arnesen
Pronunciation of First Name: Byurn
Address: 2983 Briarcliff
          Ann Arbor, MI 48105
Phone: (313) 996-3976
anne
response 15 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 00:22 UTC 1994

I too am willing to babysit-  just so you know- I'm nineteen now and
have babysat since I was 11.  I have also babysat for kids from one month
to nine years.
If you're interested I'm free rather often, as a university student I
can rearrange my schedule without too many problems.
I can be reached at 764- 5985.
kami
response 16 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 17:49 UTC 1994

must be nice! (being free I mean) 
vidar
response 17 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 17:32 UTC 1994

If you need me, Kami knows my number until 5/7.
anne
response 18 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 04:53 UTC 1994

It looks like my schedule is about to become a lot more hectic, but
it's still worth trying to get ahold of me.
kami
response 19 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 05:08 UTC 1994

oh, do tell?
vidar
response 20 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 00:38 UTC 1994

Kami, to which response art thou refering?

BTW- I am living at home again.  I'll post more conflicts later.  Just
remember: Noting on Wednesday's before 19:30, Nothing on Mondays 1900-
2000.  All other times are free.  Don't call after Midnight.  I'll be
up, but my parents 'll be pissed.
anne
response 21 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 05:16 UTC 1994

If Kami is referring to me, well I'm starting this class and need
to get caught up and it could take time. :)
kami
response 22 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 15:48 UTC 1994

I believe I've managed to confuse myself- has anyone seen my brain?
vidar
response 23 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 17:36 UTC 1994

It's in the gun closet.  The key is on the dresser.  The ammo is
on the pillow.
anne
response 24 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 11 00:10 UTC 1994

Don't worry Kami, it will come home eventually. :)
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