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tod
Bottlefeeding Mark Unseen   Feb 8 17:35 UTC 2005

I got my son to drink from a bottle this weekend for the first time.  He's
almost five months old.  He was very happy after he learned how to drink from
the bottle and fill up his belly.  I was glad to see that now I'll be able
to take him for longer than 3 hours without him going hungry.
42 responses total.
kami
response 1 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 04:04 UTC 2005

Well done!  Why'd you wait so long?  Enjoy the added freedom. 
.,
happyboy
response 2 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 08:44 UTC 2005

re0: i'm telling the la leche league on yew.
tod
response 3 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 21:16 UTC 2005

We didn't want to use a pump this time so it was Enfamil.  Didn't think
formula would be a good idea any sooner.  Miruna is sick with a bad cold so
I suspect I'm going to have my hands full this weekend.
happyboy
response 4 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 01:49 UTC 2005

cheap enfamil 'n similac at costco, holmes.  that is unless
the la leche league haint blowed it up yet.
kami
response 5 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 19:24 UTC 2005

Why did you not want to pump? I never found it *pleasant*, but certainly
useful. Of course, I had about as much milk as the average holstein...
I'm really not a fan of formula, for digestibility, for immune support, etc.

Bummer about the sick mommy- which means sick baby soon, eh? Good luck!
Take your vitamine C!
happyboy
response 6 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 19:59 UTC 2005

the whole immune support thing ends after the first couple of 
months from what i've heard...as far as digestability my girl 
never had a problem with similac dha
tod
response 7 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 23:05 UTC 2005

re #5
We did the pump thing with our first boy.  My wife wants to get back to work
and doesn't want to be locking her office everytime she needs to open the
reservoir pumps.  I dont think formula is going to stunt the growth of these
guys anyway.

Thanks for the CostCo tip.  I've got a membership careof VFW (that's where
I get the newsletters printed up) so David and I will make an expedition there
this weekend.  I'd only been getting tp and papertowels there until now.  We
get the diapers from the Wal*Mart..thsoe white cloud ones are cheap.
happyboy
response 8 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 08:13 UTC 2005

cool, and yeah..you don't have to worry about stunting their 
growth.  hell, they're already perty big.  have you thought 
about starting david on coffee and cigarettes yet?
tod
response 9 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 12:14 UTC 2005

No -ine for him yet.  I have considered getting him into the dojo though.
happyboy
response 10 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 16:03 UTC 2005

what style?  
kami
response 11 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 18:19 UTC 2005

I'm not at all worried about formula stunting growth- quite the opposite.
And while the large-scale immune support is mostly during the first months
of nursing, I find that a sick baby will nurse even if they won't take a
bottle, and that you can pass vitamins and some antibodies through the milk,
making the whole sickness process less severe. No, it's not cruicial, it's
just helpful.
And yeah- I can see where nosy co-workers could make pumping really
uncomfortable.
happyboy
response 12 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 01:57 UTC 2005

interesting, but my kid has a pretty good appetite
unless she's actually barfing.

ymmv.
kami
response 13 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 03:15 UTC 2005

great!
Happy secure little person. Hope she continues thus.
tod
response 14 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 05:01 UTC 2005

re #11
i've found pedialyte to work wonders when a kid is sick.  Well, that and a
Fever-All up the wazoo.  Victor is still going to breastfeed for the interim
but we're going to give him a bottle every now and then too.
slynne
response 15 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 17:16 UTC 2005

I have to admit if. If I had a kid, I would breastfeed but for mostly 
pretty selfish reasons. It seems easier. Frankly, I am just too lazy to 
go to the store to buy the formula and the bottles and then a person 
has to *wash* the bottles, etc etc. I generally take the path of least 
resistance no matter what it is. But, I dont have kids anyways so it 
hardly matters.
tod
response 16 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 17:24 UTC 2005

Breastfeeding is only handy if you're housebound and uninhibited.  Most women
are not open to the idea of plomping their boob out in public when feeding
time rolls around.  That even goes for at home with visitors.  
kami
response 17 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 03:31 UTC 2005

I'm with Lynne. And dear knows, I was anything but housebound- traveling from
Vermont to New York state, to Michigan, to Ontario, and elsewhere. And I'm
somewhat uninhibited, but a blanket serves as a modesty cover when necessary.
Although, I was more than willing to speak up if anyone was rude; "My kid's
hungry. What's on *your* mind?" <eg>
I don't know, the act of giving birth did a lot for trashing my modesty. For
that matter, so did sharing my body for 9 months. 
But babies aren't long on discression- happy wet slurping sounds, and a
tendency to lift up the covers to look around while nursing. My (not) favorite
was having a strongly sucking baby get distracted and let go suddenly- leaving
me painting the opposite wall!  Hey, it's an adventure in every bite! 
Better than being stiff and fussy, though.
tod
response 18 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 16:53 UTC 2005

Let me rephrase #16: "Most LADIES are not open to the idea of plomping their
boob out in public when feeding time rolls around." ;)
gracel
response 19 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 02:14 UTC 2005

With forethought and a suitable style of dress (including something like a
receiving blanket, or burping-cloth), I found that nursing my babies could
be done discreetly.  When only mom and baby can see it, is it "in public"?
kami
response 20 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 16:32 UTC 2005

Most LADIES have the strength, poise and determination, not to let prurient
or narrow-minded busy bodies keep them from giving their children the best
care possible. "Real Men" support them in that effort. Real men also complain
if there is not a clean diaper changing station in the men's room at a
gas station, resteraunt or grocery store. 
happyboy
response 21 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 17:54 UTC 2005

isn't LADIE a derogatory term or something?
tod
response 22 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 18:56 UTC 2005

Gas stations, restaurants, and grocery store bathrooms are full of germs. 
I certainly wouldn't take a baby to a gas station or grocery store knowing
that those HVAC systems are full of bacteria.  That's usually where you hear
about Legionairres Disease outbreaks.  Anyways, the point is, my wife does
not care to breastfeed anywhere but in the comfort of privacy.  And it's not
likely going to be much longer before Victor is chugging Enfamil from a bottle
so mama can stop the dairyfarm madness.  We've already got Victor eating
cereal now.

I'm also very happy to announce that David turned 2 yr 5 mo yesterday and not
only counted to 10 in several languages on his own but also went pee while
sitting on the adult toilet (using his potty seat).
happyboy
response 23 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 20:05 UTC 2005

awesome...he was doing a pretty good job counting 
last week at dinner.  you all are good parents.
tod
response 24 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 20:14 UTC 2005

Thanks Roy!  This weekend, we've got our pals from the North coming to visit.
I'm going to see about recruiting them to help put up the swingset.  Then we
can unleash the ninjas in the backyard.
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