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krj
Grammy Awards: 2002 ceremony Mark Unseen   Feb 28 17:53 UTC 2002

I don't have much to mention, but maybe a few others do.
The big winners were Alicia Keys, U2, and the soundtrack album
O BROTHER WHERE ART THOU? which took the "Album of the Year" award.
19 responses total.
krj
response 1 of 19: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 17:54 UTC 2002

   ((( Winter Agora 218  <--->  Music 78 )))
slynne
response 2 of 19: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 17:57 UTC 2002

Lucinda Williams won a grammy which made me happy because I really like 
her. 
mcnally
response 3 of 19: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:52 UTC 2002

  I like Lucinda, but I'm generally slightly embarrassed when a musician
  I like is selected for a Grammy..

  Who's Alicia Keys?
edina
response 4 of 19: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 19:01 UTC 2002

The newest soul flavor of the month.
senna
response 5 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 00:20 UTC 2002

Tool won for best Metal Performance, for which I am thankful.  The other
candidates are just noise.  I listen to noise, too, but Tool's music has
splendid quality that would win numerous mainstream awards if not for the
rabid anti-Metal prejudice of contemporary music awards shows. ;)

And "Walk On" really is quite good...
brighn
response 6 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 04:03 UTC 2002

I saw that, too. Tool's second grammy in as many albums, for that category
(Aenema also won).
jazz
response 7 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 05:57 UTC 2002

        Tool's considered metal?  Eek.
brighn
response 8 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 06:07 UTC 2002

"Opiate" is pure metal. They've gotten more "artistic" since then, but so has
Dream Theater (for instance). All the same, I'd say Tool is metal for want
of a better umbrella term.
jazz
response 9 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 06:16 UTC 2002

        I always thought of them as aggro, but that's a specialized term. 
Like Ministry.  But maybe that's because I want to include all of it under
the umbrella of industrial music.  It does have the characteristics, and it's
definitely an identifiable part of the industrial culture movement, in the
larger sense, though.
edina
response 10 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 14:17 UTC 2002

It's really all about They Might Be Giants winning a grammy.
brighn
response 11 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 15:04 UTC 2002

#9> Meanwhile, I think of Aggro as Industrial-Metal fusion. A review of
"Lateralus" also pointed out that "Fleas and Ticks" ("Hope this is what you
wanted/hope this is what you had in mind/Because this is what you're getting")
is about as straight-up a heavy metal song as you're likely to hear Tool play
(of their own music, that is).
 
"Schism," meanwhile, is nearly unrecognizable as metal, which is ironic that
it's the one that got the Grammy for that category.
senna
response 12 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 18:42 UTC 2002

Ticks and Fleas, actually.  The definitions of metal are rather muddled,
particularly if you want to call Opiate pure metal. :)  It's not post-Nirvana
alternative, though, I'm rather sure of it.  I think it's safe to call Tool
a Metal band for Grammy purposes.  

Keep in mind, though, the history of the award.  Jethro Tull won it in favor
of Metallica's "One," Soundgarden has a metal grammy for Spoonman, and Nine
Inch Nails earned a Grammy for Happiness in Slavery (beating Metallica's For
Whom the Bell Tolls) several years after it was released, and roughly eight
after For Whom the Bell Tolls was initially recorded.

mcnally
response 13 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 20:38 UTC 2002

  It is, after all, a Grammy.

  Most of the time they get awarded to stuff that I wouldn't necessarily
  concede was music..
jazz
response 14 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 22:38 UTC 2002

        NiN is *definitely* not metal.
senna
response 15 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 08:56 UTC 2002

Although Broken certainly could be mistaken for it.
oval
response 16 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 08:04 UTC 2002

fuck the grammys
tpryan
response 17 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 01:18 UTC 2002

        Where'nt the Grummpy's also given out recently?
oval
response 18 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 21:54 UTC 2002

<grin>
teapot
response 19 of 19: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 06:40 UTC 2002

Mr Jennifer lost again.  
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