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kerouac
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Of Time and Distance...........
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Feb 9 01:24 UTC 1995 |
Since this is a conference about friendship, this might be a good place
to discuss how friendships can change because of time and distance.
Not long ago I ran into someone I had been friends with in high school
Now our lives have gone in different directions and we dont have that
much in common anymore. At one time I would never have thought we
would be any less close than we were. The only thing I thought had
changed was that I moved away, but it was more than that. We had
grown up and become different people, had different relationships,
and seen different rivers of water pass under our respective bridges.
We are still friendly but all we can talk about is the past because
neither of us has had the time to connect in the present.
A while back, after getting out of college, I made a conscious decision
to move out of my home state so I could seek new experiences
It is not anything that I regret doing, but there is a risk when any
life decision you make causes you to leave friends behind. True friends
I guess can accept the choices you make and will remain true friends.
But time and distance changes things. I suppose I would like to think
that when one makes a friend, the connections that caused the friendship
...the chemistry....will always be there.
Then I look in the mirror and say "geez, am *I* the one who has changed?"
Richard W. (Kerouac)
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gerund
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response 1 of 56:
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Feb 9 04:34 UTC 1995 |
Unfortunate as this can be, it happens.
We all change, and we often grow apart from our friends.
I find it tragic, because I don't think it's necessary.
I think it happens because people let it happen.
I mean honestly... if a friendship meant enough to you to keep
it from going the way of the wind wouldn't you do so?
Sometimes I think as much as we might wish we could keep
a friendship... sometimes it just won't be that way.
I'm not sure if it's ALWAYS a questionof 'letting' it
happen...
sometimes I think it's more of a question of not knowing how
to stop it from happening.
I might have more to say about this later, but for now
it's bugging me too much.
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zuber
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response 2 of 56:
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Feb 9 04:43 UTC 1995 |
I think many people have shared this experience. I have friends I went to
schhool with that I have lost touch with. Some of these people meant very much
to me I also know people that I did not associate with in high school that have
proved to be very good friends. Every closed door shuts off opportunities but
it also opens up new opportunities. My friends over the years have given me so
much I can only hope that I was able to offer them as much as I have benefited
frm them. I hold all of them in my heart. I still feel it is sad when people
part though.
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eeyore
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response 3 of 56:
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Feb 9 15:21 UTC 1995 |
i look bak on my high school friends, and realize that i haven't changed a
bit, and that kinda makes me sad. on the other hand,i have found a "new"
friend: i've known him for the past ten years....
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face
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response 4 of 56:
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Feb 9 16:32 UTC 1995 |
I just lost my best friend in the world to emotions.
It hurts to bad to sum up in a few words.
Its bad though.
REAL BAD
She doesn't even say anything to me anymore.
She won't talk to me, she doesn't look at me. She knows I'm there.
Its bad and its not getting better.
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zuber
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response 5 of 56:
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Feb 9 17:16 UTC 1995 |
I had a friend in high school who was like a brother to me. we were very close
We ran cross country together. we talked together and we offered each other
the support that our families did not. There are many people who do not come
from happy families, there were those in school who had overcome so much just
to stay in school. Together we provided each other with the support and a
sense of belonging that many people get from their families. I went away to
college. My best frinds father was an alcoholic and was seperated from his
mother. One day his father got drunk and decided that he would end his life.
He did not chose to do it in silence and alone. He did it in the presense of
his son m, who was my best friend. My family never told me about this when I
was in school and by the time I found out much time had passed. I tried ter
this happened. What I found was that he was changed by that horrible incedent.
My friend from high school never let anyone very close after that. I can
never imagine what he went through on that night. All I could do was upport
and hope that knowing his friends cared would be of some comfort. Two people
died that night. My friends father and with him part of my best friend died.
I try to keep in touch with him but we have lost touch over the years.
move into the present. I know this may be depressing to read, but it helps to
put things in perspective sometimes. I guess my point is life is what you make
it. Think about decisions you make. Even if we try we cannot for the ones we
love. That is hard for us. But we can make the commitment to let them know we
always care.
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flem
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response 6 of 56:
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Feb 12 06:48 UTC 1995 |
That's really sad. I hate anything that hurts my friendships, and I'm usually
pretty good at patching them back up after something happens. I don't know
what time and distance will do, tho. I'm hoping that e-mail and high long-
distance bills will be able to do what needs to be done.
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anasazi
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response 7 of 56:
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Feb 23 04:37 UTC 1995 |
Zuber,
i am very sorry for your friend and you. i know how that goes but not in that
tyoe of sense. i meet a friend about two years ago and we wrote for about
a yearr but then we lost touch. it hurt but i got over it. I am
thankful for th etime we had together. But the up side is that also
on this trip i meet another person. We were not very close and i didn't
thinkwe would stay incontact but to my surprise we have to this day and
it will be two years in june since we last saw each other. i would like to
saee her sometime in the next year bu that is not likely. We have enen stayed
in contact while i am at college. it has turned out to be one of the best
friendships i have. when ever i getmarried i want her at teh service if at all
possible. well, i have gone on enough so i will stop.
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dang
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response 8 of 56:
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Mar 16 19:44 UTC 1995 |
I am afraid that a similar problem is going to occure to me in the near
future. This summer, the girl I love, we broke up but are still friends,
is going to be leaving in early June, and be gone all summer. Before she
gets back, I will be leaving for college. She will also be gone next
summer. I will get to see her maybe on the three or so times I'm home
over the course of the school year. I'm really afraid that the friendship
will end. Does anyone have any advice?
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flem
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response 9 of 56:
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Mar 27 06:24 UTC 1995 |
E-mail? A bad substitute for presence, but better than nothing...
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dang
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response 10 of 56:
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Mar 28 19:02 UTC 1995 |
She doesn't e-mail. Hates it.
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sun
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response 11 of 56:
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Jun 10 19:22 UTC 1995 |
well, I haven't had my e-mail privledges for a while (6 months) but because
you all are SO important to em, I have had to snail mail people. And they
are pretty good about snail mailng back. I suppose it is how important is
this person to you, and you to them. (do I know who this is? Is this who
I think it is?) If you can find the time...no...MAKE the time to keep in
touch, and force yourself to keep the committment up, and to make yourself
write, and think about this person, and not get absorbed in your new life,
as in make time, but not obsess, then I do not think there would be a problem.
As for not seeing them, have faith, daniel, Dear. I did. And you all came to
visit me, when I didn't have a 'puter. It meant so much to me. you also
helped me move, and you have been a great guy. if the people you care about
care for you as much as you care for the, then I do not thing you have to
worry.
Just have a little faith in your friends, and they will come through for you.
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morgayn
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response 12 of 56:
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Jul 25 15:16 UTC 1995 |
Part of being a friend is taking that risk....having that faith, that trust.
Part of being a friend is being willing to risk that, to step out on that
limb knowing you could take a fall.
Friendship would not mean so very much if it were a simple walk in the park.
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signet
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response 13 of 56:
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Oct 26 20:12 UTC 1995 |
(several months later)
I have had many friendships peter out--some of them it was my fault, others
it was the other perion's--but we make choices and have to live with the
outcome. We may not realize the significance at the time.
I had a friend who I had known since junior high school. She was always dating
someone and totally imersed herself into the relationship. She lost many
friends but she and I seemed to remain. I recognized the pattern and didn't
hold it against her when she won't contact me after several months. Sooner
or later she would, and then we would be friends again for awhile. But as of
last August I think our friendship is at an end. We exchanged Christmas cards
but she only signed her name to hers. Sometimes I wonder what she is up to
but she never really gave me the emotional support I often needed and now get
from my newer friends. It's sad, but looking back it was doomed from the start
because of the person she is.
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morgayn
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response 14 of 56:
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Oct 27 15:29 UTC 1995 |
It is always sad ewhen things end, ya know? But, such is life, a battle of
ever and never-ending things...
I just recently ended a relationship which I will miss, but at the same
time I have begun a relationship I will cherish for as long as I can and
will always remember.
Life is funny that way, ya know?
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signet
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response 15 of 56:
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Nov 6 14:10 UTC 1995 |
Awhile back I started a whole new life thanks to an ex-boyfriend. I made all
new friends, joined a church, found a new apt, and got a new job. At the time,
I thought I was happy, but I didn't really have any true friends and I was
miserable in a house from he**. I don't miss anyone or anything from that past
life. It almost sounds like a born again experience but I am presbyterian and
will remain so. Actually the job came later, but I think it was my new outlook
on life that motivated me to come across the way I did in the interview.
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adania
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response 16 of 56:
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Nov 7 00:43 UTC 1995 |
i keep getting boyfriends that have all sorts of helpful suggestions to
fix my life(which is not all that messed up).
It can easily get on my nerves, but thay are just trying to help.
My true friends only tender advice when I am obviously in need of it, or I
ask for it.
Of course, the advice that I ask for most often (What should I get to eat/
drink/for lunch?" Is never answered...
*sigh*
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signet
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response 17 of 56:
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Nov 8 14:12 UTC 1995 |
I have one friend who is very different from the rest of my friends. When I
had a backache, most of my friends would say empathic things like "hope you
feel better," whereas my unique friend says "you should have that check out,
it could be a pinched nerve." This isn't the first time she hasn't offered
the customary empathy. It's kind of unnerving to hear. She and I had a major
falling out when I was dating my last boyfriend. She really resented him and
that fact that I was spending time with him and not her, but she would never
admit this. Instead she would give me grief about not going to some event and
get other to give me grief too.
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morgayn
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response 18 of 56:
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Nov 8 19:47 UTC 1995 |
Hmmm...that friend sounds like an echo of myself from the past.
*Uneasy look towards Anne*
Anyhow, I think friends really can influence your outlook on life, and the way
you choose them can really have an impact on what you do with yourself.
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anne
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response 19 of 56:
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Nov 8 20:34 UTC 1995 |
What? I didn't do it... ;)
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adania
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response 20 of 56:
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Nov 9 03:16 UTC 1995 |
I think sometimes that i am what my friends have made me, and not much else...
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morgayn
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response 21 of 56:
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Nov 9 20:25 UTC 1995 |
No, you're right, Anne, I was the moron in that particular chain of events.
*grin*
Adania, sometimes I would agree with you, and I think the person I am
right now is a direct result of all my friends' friendly prodding...:)
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fraizer
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response 22 of 56:
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Nov 9 20:44 UTC 1995 |
I don't like my friends to prod me (usually).
I choose friends because they have something to offer.
Something I lack or offer something similar myself.
You don't always know exactly what that something is,
but that's the beauty, the mysterious something that
attracts you to another person.
It takes time to figure out just what it is,
and sometimes you never find out.
But you always know that there is something.
That's why you can get in a huge fight with your best friend
about something you disagreee on (of couse that's how most fights start)
and still be there best friend.
That's why friends are so special... because they're there. Always.
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morgayn
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response 23 of 56:
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Nov 13 05:52 UTC 1995 |
*Melissa huggles Anne because she thinks the fighting is a good thing for
them to think about....because they will always be friends no matter what.*
*Melly huggles everyone*
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signet
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response 24 of 56:
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Nov 16 14:04 UTC 1995 |
Re #22's ending: I think fights with friends reveal "true" vs "fair weather"
types.
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