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lilmo
How many and what kind of paper copies? Mark Unseen   Oct 14 06:38 UTC 1995

The question has arisen as to how many paper copies there should be of the
Grex newsletter (whatever we decide to call it).  I have also realized that
there is unanswered the question of what type of paper to use.  Theoretically,
we could use 100% cotton paper, but I dont' think the board is willing to
spring for that.  So how cheap should we be?

These are questions for the board to decide, but for ALL interested parties
to discuss, and get their input in.

'Nighty-night!!
52 responses total.
selena
response 1 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 04:36 UTC 1995

        Well, does grex have any set "colors" or such? Picking a cheap
colored paper would be cool.
nephi
response 2 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 07:41 UTC 1995

Newsletter 5 is now linked to Coop 113.  Enjoy!
scg
response 3 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 07:45 UTC 1995

I Grex doesn't have any set colors, although I guess it wouldn't work too well
to have everybody choose their color of newspaper the way we let people choose
their tee shirt colors.  Have we made a decision yet on whether this newspaper
would be on paper or in ASCII?  I don't remember.
gregc
response 4 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 08:16 UTC 1995

Black paper with bright flourescent green ink?

Also, I think printing it on toilet paper might be appropriate. :-)
ajax
response 5 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 14:43 UTC 1995

Recycled paper, with as high a post-consumer recycled fiber content as
is feasible.  Well, given Greg's suggestion, I would steer clear of
post-consumer toilet paper.  :-)
lilmo
response 6 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 18:40 UTC 1995

Re #3:  the understanding of the editors is that an online version will be
made, and paper copies sent to any members (and others?) who so request it,
as well as being available for publicity purposes.
popcorn
response 7 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 19:18 UTC 1995

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popcorn
response 8 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 19:19 UTC 1995

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lilmo
response 9 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 21:50 UTC 1995

That's in YOUR court !!!  :-)
sidhe
response 10 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 16:31 UTC 1995

        Well, there's plenty of colors to choose from. A recommendation-
How often is this going to be published? If quarterly, pick a
seasonal color. If monthly, pick one that works with that month's theme,
or major holiday.
scott
response 11 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 01:55 UTC 1995

And let's not forget to argue over those colors until we've managed to
discourage the newsletter people from even starting!    :)  :)  :)
mta
response 12 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 05:07 UTC 1995

I don't know about people covering the costs -- I think the original idea was
to have members recieve it free if they want to, with others paying.  I
don't object, though, to having folks send a SASE or whatever.  (I assume
that as the editor in charge of paper (It'll alos ne in HTML and ASCII
versions, I think) that job will fall to me?

My suggestion is that we print n+35 copies of each, where n = the number of
pre-requested copies.  The remaining 35 could be used as PR and/or go to
people who want them but forgot to ask for them ahead of time.

Paper?  Hey, we're an on-line medium. I say, forget the colour and go with
a close to 100% recycled paper as we can find and whatever colour that's in,
fine.  The exception is if we decide we must have photos.  (We'll be doing
a couple of series of interviews.  I'd prefer a good caricature, to accompany
them, myself.  Too bad I don't draw.)  Then we'd need clay coat paper -- maybe
for anniversary issues or something..
wisdom
response 13 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 14:59 UTC 1995

        That stuff looks awful, though!
steve
response 14 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 16:10 UTC 1995

   Yes, but wouldn't it be fitting to say somewhere in the paper,
that Cyberspace Communications uses the cheapest paper possible
since we're fundementally opposed to the distribution of it on
paper, and then tell folks what url to look at for the 'real thing'?

   I think that would be cool, telling the world that we're capable
of doing paper versions of things we can do online, but that it will
be on the flimseyest paper possible.
ajax
response 15 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 17:54 UTC 1995

I kind of like that reasoning, but if the newsletter is used as propeganda
to garner new users (or members), it might not be as effectie as a nicer
paper.  And by the way, decent quality recycled paper generally costs more
than decent quality new-fiber paper (timber subsidies are effective).  I 
favor recycled paper for environmental reasons, not for frugality.
scg
response 16 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 02:45 UTC 1995

(What better way to get new users than to make them get online for the real
thing?)
lilmo
response 17 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 04:54 UTC 1995

Re #16:  If I saw a newsletter on REALLY cheap paper, I'd wonder, 'In what
aother ways are they too cheap to do it right?'
scg
response 18 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 05:05 UTC 1995

(Using ancient computers?)
selena
response 19 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 05:12 UTC 1995

        <chuckle>
        In that way, they'd know what to expect.. If the writing was
good, it would kinda reflect exactly what we are: not so much flashy,
but rich in content!
adbarr
response 20 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 16:14 UTC 1995

You want something that says: "Poor, but honest.".
lilmo
response 21 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 19:48 UTC 1995

Then I think we need to get paper that we expect to be of reasonable quality,
but not particularly expensive, like ordinary copier paper.  IMHO, of course.
sidhe
response 22 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 00:31 UTC 1995

        Well, more and more print and copy shops are placing equal-
quality recycled stock at the same price as its' virgin counterpart,
so the only question truly is- just how bad do you want this to look?
        I must concur with the idea that the newsletter require no
"virgin sacrifices".
lilmo
response 23 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 04:46 UTC 1995

If they are the same cost, then go for the recycled, I say.  I hope the board
remembers to give us some direction on how many non-requested copies to print,
and has some idea what to do with them.  :-)
sidhe
response 24 of 52: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 18:11 UTC 1995

        Well, I can help, as I have experience in the printing industry..
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