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Grex > Music1 > #154: Mental Metal, and Literate Alternative? | |
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sidhe
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Mental Metal, and Literate Alternative?
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Feb 24 18:50 UTC 1995 |
Some music is very intellectual, even in genres that would seem odd for
the kind of thought that is shown. Examples would include Sponge, Pink floyd,
Atomic opera, Rush, etc.. Why is this so surprising, do you think?
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fraizer
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response 1 of 14:
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Feb 24 19:27 UTC 1995 |
I don't think it is suprising. At least it shouldn't be. I've been a
huge Rush fan for years. I think they have some of the best lyrics
ever put to song. Aside from being the best drummer ever, Neil Peart
is also an amazing writer. He used to be an English professor.
But anyway, I think too many idiots have successful albums. I site for
example: Green Day, Bon Jovi, Ween, just to name a few.
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tyche
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response 2 of 14:
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Feb 26 05:14 UTC 1995 |
Gotta agree with you about fu
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sidhe
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response 3 of 14:
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Feb 26 14:51 UTC 1995 |
So, are you saying that the idiots have become the norm, in an
industry that has much true talent to offer, or that the gems mentioned
above are merely rare and unusual?
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raven
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response 4 of 14:
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Feb 28 19:20 UTC 1995 |
I would say that idiots get promoted by the record companies, because
that's what they *think* will sell. There are a lot of intellectual
competent muscians out there if you keep your ears open. To be fair too,
I think the record companies are doing a better job promoting talent
now then they did in the 80s, which was the era of Michael Jackson and
Madona.
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tyche
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response 5 of 14:
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Mar 1 18:16 UTC 1995 |
yeah, if you can call it "talent". *giggle* Rush still has a tendency to
get the short end of the media stick.
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raven
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response 6 of 14:
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Mar 1 19:34 UTC 1995 |
Well I guess I ment that bands like the Breeders and Throwing Muses
are starting to get some regonition for their incredible lyrics.
Doesn't Rush sell 100,000s of albums with every release?? I hardly
think they're hurting. If you want a band that's getting the short end of the
stick think of Material, or Brian Eno.
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tyche
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response 7 of 14:
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Mar 2 14:50 UTC 1995 |
I meant recognition by eMpTV or Rolling Stone. I will agree with you about
Material and Eno, though...
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raven
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response 8 of 14:
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Mar 2 19:25 UTC 1995 |
Isn't MTV recognition the kiss of death for talent anyway? People
can sell alot of records without bowing to MTV I think Neil Young would
be a good example here.
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tyche
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response 9 of 14:
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Mar 4 21:32 UTC 1995 |
But Neil Young did an eMpTV Unplugged. Now he's considered the "Godfather of
Grunge" and is touring with Pearl Jam.
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raven
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response 10 of 14:
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Mar 5 07:41 UTC 1995 |
Hmmm I thought he only had one concert apperence on empty tv, oh well
I din't keep up with that stuff anyway. But as you point out Rush gets
little media exposure and sells well, so media exposure isn't that
neccessary to become a well known band.
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fraizer
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response 11 of 14:
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Mar 6 20:05 UTC 1995 |
re #6: Yes, Rush does sell hundreds of thousands of records each attempt.
But they do so with absolutely no help from the media. No air play (except
maybe some of their old songs on classic rock stations), and hardly any
concert promotion. And yet they still can sell out 5 shows in one week
at the Palace at Auburn Hills. (that's a REAL big place)
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raven
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response 12 of 14:
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Mar 6 21:51 UTC 1995 |
I would also cite the Grateful Dead in the same vein, luv em, or
hate em they have a lot of fans while managing to short circuit the
media machine by allowing concert taping.
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doll
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response 13 of 14:
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Jun 16 14:44 UTC 1996 |
i love rush
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mpeacock
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response 14 of 14:
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Jun 25 01:46 UTC 1996 |
I agree with the Grateful Dead, and would add Frank Zappa as having a lot of
fans worldwide with no media push. I also agree with Rush.
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