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Grex > Music > #42: Schoolkids-Records-in-Exile RIP. |  |
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anderyn
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Schoolkids-Records-in-Exile RIP.
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Apr 25 16:30 UTC 2007 |
Schoolkids-in-Exile RIP.
This am, the radio (Martin Bandyke) had an interview with the owner of
Schoolkids. Not unexpectedly, but still sadly, the announcement was that it
will be closing in the next month or two. Steve Bergman said that it was
due to the fading profit margin, aka all those of us who are now buying our
music from the on-line legal music services.
This is sad, because Schoolkids was the first record store I'd ever gone to
in order to find the rare and obscure folk music I'd finally gotten the
courage to go out and discover, lo, twenty-five years ago now. It was, for
the longest time, my sine qua non of record stores.
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krj
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response 1 of 36:
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Apr 25 16:35 UTC 2007 |
((( Agora #48 <---> Music #42 )))
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krj
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response 2 of 36:
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Apr 25 17:45 UTC 2007 |
It was a little less than nine years ago that Twila announced the
closing of the original Schoolkids Records store on Liberty St.
(Music2, items #149 & #154
or, in link notation: item:music2,149 item:music2,154 )
When the original Schoolkids closed, it generated lots of Grex discussion.
I don't think this second, final, closing will draw much comment
at all.
The saddest comment I have right now is that there is hardly
anything in the store that I want, even at a deep-discount going-out-
of-business sale.
More later...
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slynne
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response 3 of 36:
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Apr 25 18:08 UTC 2007 |
I cant remember the last time I bought a CD in a store. I am sure it was
at Borders though because of my discount.
I have noticed too that every year, Borders as a chain devotes less
space to music. I think that the era of the cd is over and the era of
downloading music is in. Which is fine with me. I also expect that as
those electronic book readers get better, the bookstore might go the way
of the record store.
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keesan
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response 4 of 36:
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Apr 26 00:04 UTC 2007 |
We just got five CD decks working but never listen to CDs and never did. I
bought one CD (recorded by a friend who needed to pay her rent). They scratch
easily compared to records.
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mcnally
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response 5 of 36:
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Apr 26 02:52 UTC 2007 |
If treated properly, they're *much* easier to take care of than LPs.
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keesan
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response 6 of 36:
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Apr 26 14:12 UTC 2007 |
The library CDs are almost always badly scratched and parts of them not
playable. Scratched LPs are usually still playable.
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bru
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response 7 of 36:
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Apr 26 14:48 UTC 2007 |
proof once again that Sindi lives in a Sindi world.
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marcvh
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response 8 of 36:
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Apr 26 15:32 UTC 2007 |
LPs are harder to track though; if only we still used wax cylinders then
things would be even better.
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cross
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response 9 of 36:
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Apr 26 16:21 UTC 2007 |
Every time you play an LP, you are wearing it out. Eventually, it becomes
unplayable. Not so with a CD.
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nharmon
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response 10 of 36:
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Apr 26 16:24 UTC 2007 |
You can make exact duplicates of CDs, not so much with LPs.
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krj
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Apr 26 20:52 UTC 2007 |
Sindi in resp:6 :: are you talking about CDs from the Ann Arbor
District Library? I've had a few scratched-up rock CDs from
there, but (nearly?) all of the numerous classical CDs I have
checked out over the last two years have been in fine shape.
Yes, CDs can get scratched up if you don't carry them in their
cases -- I recall one co-worker who would toss unprotected CDs
in his backpack, yeowch. But my impression is that the people
who check out the library's classical CDs handle them well.
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keesan
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Apr 26 23:24 UTC 2007 |
Classical CDs from the main library. Usually one or more tracks are
unplayable. DVDs also have bad areas, videotapes did not. CD-Rs have a
finite lifetime because the dye fades. Tapes even last longer. I have
records from the 50s that still sound the same as new (which was not so good,
but they have improved since then).
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bru
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response 13 of 36:
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Apr 26 23:32 UTC 2007 |
Sindi? Dye? in CD-R's?
People who do not take care of their medium, no matter what that medium may
be, it is not going to wear well over time. Be it paper, tape, vinyl, or CD.
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mcnally
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response 14 of 36:
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Apr 26 23:44 UTC 2007 |
Yes, dye. In CD-Rs.
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anderyn
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response 15 of 36:
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Apr 26 23:59 UTC 2007 |
Okay. But I am all digital now, she says. I rip my CDs to mp3s and carry
'em all on my little iPod. It is very nice. But I have to say that I
have CDs that are old and do not have any degradation problems, given that
I always take good care that they are in their cases when they're not
being played. My older cassette tapes and videotapes have started to
degrade to the point that I can't use many of them. (And don't even
get me started on eight-tracks.)
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tod
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response 16 of 36:
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Apr 27 00:09 UTC 2007 |
What's the best way to preserve DVD-R's of my family home movies?
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keesan
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response 17 of 36:
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Apr 27 01:29 UTC 2007 |
Do you cassette tapes degrade (oxidize over time) or simply wear out?
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tod
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response 18 of 36:
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Apr 27 05:07 UTC 2007 |
I think videocassettes tend to get brittle and stretch.
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nharmon
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response 19 of 36:
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Apr 27 12:38 UTC 2007 |
> What's the best way to preserve DVD-R's of my family home movies?
Make as many copies as you can and distribute them to family members.
Keep making copies. Copying DVDs is lossless so there is no need to
preserve some "master copy". Distribute the copies so that if a disc
ever goes bad, you have plenty of places to borrow a disc from to make
more copies.
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tod
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response 20 of 36:
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Apr 27 16:50 UTC 2007 |
There's no way to make a master copy which can be preserved? What if I have
a stack of DVD-R's I want to keep in a safe for decades? Do I have to keep
going back to make newer copies?
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nharmon
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response 21 of 36:
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Apr 27 17:02 UTC 2007 |
I don't know Todd. I just think making copies and distributing them is a
pretty good way of making sure they are always available.
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slynne
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response 22 of 36:
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Apr 27 17:02 UTC 2007 |
What about storing the contents of the DVD-R's on an external hard
drive. That wouldnt have the same sorts of dye problems
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marcvh
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response 23 of 36:
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Apr 27 17:05 UTC 2007 |
After just a few years you'll take the whole stack and copy it onto a
handful of HD-DVD (or Blu-Ray or whatever) discs. Then after a few more
years you'll copy that onto a megacapacity disc that can store all the
knowledge in the history of the universe and that can fit up your ass.
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mcnally
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response 24 of 36:
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Apr 27 17:12 UTC 2007 |
And then, when you need facts to win an argument, you can just pull them
out of..
Actually, it'll be a lot like things are now..
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