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pony
Announcements item Mark Unseen   Jul 5 17:55 UTC 2000

Well, granted, most of the items in this cf are announcement items, for once
I have my own announcement to enter.

So here is an announcements item.

--tcith
62 responses total.
vous
response 1 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 17:55 UTC 2000

fuck the limeys.
pony
response 2 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 17:56 UTC 2000

I would like to anounce that this morning I passed 70-081 Implementing and
Supporting Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5.

--tcith
jerryr
response 3 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 17:59 UTC 2000

you gop!
jor
response 4 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 18:05 UTC 2000

        Microsoft Sexchange
tod
response 5 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 18:17 UTC 2000

Ali, wnat a job?
twinkie
response 6 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 20:48 UTC 2000

I would like to announce that I've been an Exchange admin for the past couple
months, and I've never even seen 70-081 :-P

mdw
response 7 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 20:51 UTC 2000

Isn't the correct answer to Microsoft Exchange "no"?  Surely a complete
course isn't necessary for this?
twinkie
response 8 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 21:02 UTC 2000

You're confusing Exchange with Lotus Notes.

And with Lotus, you do need a complete course so that you can back up your
statement every time you have to say "No. It can't do that."

jerome
response 9 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 21:34 UTC 2000

VMS Mail.  You read; you send.  You receive; you transmit.  No virii.
jp2
response 10 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 21:59 UTC 2000

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mdw
response 11 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 00:01 UTC 2000

Oh, I don't think I'm confusing exchange with lotus notes.  This *is*
the mail software that eats machines for breakfast and wants more?  The
one that needs a full-time person to baby-sit it just to keep it from
self-destructing? The one where security was so much of an after-thought
that the anti-virus "fixes" cripple it?
jp2
response 12 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 02:09 UTC 2000

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twinkie
response 13 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 03:02 UTC 2000

re: 11 -- No, that's Lotus Notes. A properly-built Exchange server will run
for months, with little intervention. And as long as you update your virus
defs (which do not cripple the server), it's all good.

The security issues are problems with Outlook, not Exchange Server.

jp2
response 14 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 03:12 UTC 2000

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twinkie
response 15 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 03:54 UTC 2000

Because it was not built properly.

Why is it the Exchange server I built at work hasn't been rebooted in a month,
and is faster than greased shit?

buzzard
response 16 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 13:31 UTC 2000

Greased shit?!?!?!



I'm using Exchange here at work right now and it's kinda like greased shit
too... er, wait... I meant greasy shit.

jor
response 17 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 14:11 UTC 2000

        I miss VMS mail.
jerome
response 18 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 14:31 UTC 2000

Me, too.  Elegance by simplicity.  Do one thing and do it well.
violator
response 19 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 16:44 UTC 2000

i have to use lotus notes at work.  and at times i am VERY frustrated 
with it. uuf!
jep
response 20 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 16:56 UTC 2000

We use Lotus Notes, and I am always frustrated with it.

We're going to be switching to MS Outlook in the near future.  I expect 
not to like that a lot more, but at least the user interface is not 
designed specifically to prevent the sending, receiving and storing of 
e-mail.  It's designed, instead, to encourage the spread of 
system-destroying viruses.  

This, at a company that sometimes sends one-line text messages as MS 
Word attachments.  A company which daily sends links to an internal WWW 
site, from which you read MS Word attachments that are 1-5 screen text 
messages.  (Psst!  Guys!  Just send the text, right in the body of the 
e-mail!)
ric
response 21 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 17:05 UTC 2000

One of my coworkers, who is a certified lotus notes administrator (that's not
what she's doing now) says that John is correct.

Lotis Notes is specifically designed to prevent the sending, receiving and
storing of email.
jep
response 22 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 17:09 UTC 2000

Why did you have to ask, Rick?  You know I never exaggerate.  
Exaggeration is the worst possible thing anyone can ever do.  Everyone 
who ever exaggerates, about anything, should be shot, carved into little 
bits, ground up, and then flushed down the garbage disposal.
happyboy
response 23 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 17:31 UTC 2000

and then the garbage disposal should be incinerated
by an ATOMIC BOMB!
jerryr
response 24 of 62: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 17:33 UTC 2000

only after you strap a couple of young orphans to it 
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