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jmsaul
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Current News
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Jun 12 01:05 UTC 2000 |
I'm not a member of M-Net's staff, so this is second-hand, but here's what
I know:
1. It does not look like we'll be able to bring the old M-Box back up.
2. Rex is working on getting M-Net up and running on a new machine.
3. There is a hardware problem with some component of the new machine --
tentatively diagnosed as the SCSI card -- that makes it impossible to
write to its hard drive.
4. Funding is not an issue. (But thanks to all of the people who have
offered money to help us get back up faster.)
5. Once the machine is running, it will still take several days to test
it adequately, especially given security considerations.
6. No user or BBS files have been lost.
When I say up to a week, I'm guessing. I don't know whether it would be
possible to slap another machine up there just to handle email. If that's
practical, it's a good idea, and we should do it. I'll look into that, if
one of our staff folks doesn't post here on the topic first.
I wish I could tell you that the machine will be back up tomorrow, but I
can't. I can tell you that M-Net *will* be back up, and will be far more
stable and fast when it is. I can also tell you that people are working hard
on it, and have already put a lot of time in.
On behalf of Arbornet, I apologize for the inconvenience caused by this
downtime, and I promise that we'll do our best to resolve it as quickly as
possible within the limitations of our volunteer schedules, and try to prevent
a recurrence.
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steve
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response 1 of 137:
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Jun 12 01:20 UTC 2000 |
Congratulations on not having lost any files! Thats an excellent thing,
and will mollify a lot of people when the system does come back up.
A week (or more) is not an unreasonable amount of time for the reappearance
of M-Net. Just testing the system for security problems should take several
days, assuming no problems found. Six months from now people won't remember
this as anything more than a pain in the ass--and if it takes an extra few
days to come up, so be it.
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don
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response 2 of 137:
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Jun 12 01:27 UTC 2000 |
How current will the files be? Understandably you probably couldn't use the
last backup because it has all the hacked stuff on it.
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aaron
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response 3 of 137:
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Jun 12 01:39 UTC 2000 |
Have you given any thought to "donating" the old M-Box to the Attorney
General's new on-line crimes unit, for a full forensic investigation?
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jmsaul
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response 4 of 137:
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Jun 12 02:06 UTC 2000 |
Re #2: Rex dumped all the files to tape pretty much as soon as he got to
WWNet.
Re #3: Are they a 501(c)(3), so we can get a tax writeoff? ;-)
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ganesh
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response 5 of 137:
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Jun 12 02:29 UTC 2000 |
That's really cool that we are getting back our files. I do have a lot of
files that I have linked from my website. As someone wrote, I too have a lot
of addresses in address book and saved-messages in mnet. Are we really goin
to loose them? :(
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happyboy
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response 6 of 137:
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Jun 12 02:40 UTC 2000 |
8D
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jmsaul
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response 7 of 137:
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Jun 12 02:57 UTC 2000 |
Re #5: I don't see why you would. We should have everything on those tapes.
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willard
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response 8 of 137:
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Jun 12 02:58 UTC 2000 |
#0: That's pretty accurate, Joe. I'm fairly confident that we will be
able to restore user home directories (and hopefully mailboxes) as
they were at the time of our crash.
If we were confident that the system's binaries were uncorrupted,
this process would be quite a bit simpler. To the contrary, we're
positive that M-Net is swiss-cheese at this point, and before we can
restore service, we need to have a certain degree of confidence that
those holes have been filled.
We're running into all sorts of fun barriers. Stuff that a lot of
people don't really think too hard about, like the fact that we
require a customized kernel that prevents non-patron users from
opening socket connections. (Anyone got time to dig into this one
while we're working on other stuff? We'll have to settle on an
operating system first.)
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tsty
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response 9 of 137:
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Jun 12 03:08 UTC 2000 |
which os is on this new b0x?
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polvo
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response 10 of 137:
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Jun 12 03:35 UTC 2000 |
re #5
DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ME?
I said "your friends ate my balls in a ball eating contest"
WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW?
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jp2
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response 11 of 137:
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Jun 12 03:45 UTC 2000 |
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jp2
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response 12 of 137:
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Jun 12 03:48 UTC 2000 |
This response has been erased.
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trex
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response 13 of 137:
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Jun 12 04:19 UTC 2000 |
the ability to limit outgoing network traffic to certian groups is already
in the FreeBSD kernel :)
the scsi problems mentioned above are as follows: any os I try to install
on this hardware hasn't been able to put files on the disk, apparently. it
can format it just fine, but get weird errors when actually trying to install
the OS. this happens with FreeBSD, Linux, OpenBSD and even Windows 2000.
I've tried swapping SCSI cards, but it was just an older model with the same
chipset. and I've tried a new hard drive. monday I'll try a different scsi
card if I can find one laying around.
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willard
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response 14 of 137:
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Jun 12 04:43 UTC 2000 |
#13: Excellent. Let me know if that stuff doesn't work out, Rex, and I
will get a new motherboard in your hands ASAP.
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jp2
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response 15 of 137:
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Jun 12 11:23 UTC 2000 |
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void
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response 16 of 137:
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Jun 12 13:27 UTC 2000 |
if a new scsi card(s) are needed to get m-net back up, let me know
how much it (they) costs and i'll get a check either to a bod member or
k8 within 24 hours.
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buzzard
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response 17 of 137:
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Jun 12 13:33 UTC 2000 |
Whoa!
cool.
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jmsaul
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response 18 of 137:
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Jun 12 13:59 UTC 2000 |
Thanks, Void!
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dpc
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response 19 of 137:
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Jun 12 14:44 UTC 2000 |
Thanks very much indeed, void!
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cyklone
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response 20 of 137:
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Jun 12 17:08 UTC 2000 |
I like aaron's idea
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kewy
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response 21 of 137:
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Jun 12 17:18 UTC 2000 |
moi aussi.
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trex
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response 22 of 137:
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Jun 12 20:10 UTC 2000 |
I missed it...
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jerryr
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response 23 of 137:
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Jun 13 06:32 UTC 2000 |
drift; congrats to dpc for winning a seat on the library board in yesterday's
election.
drift off
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bru
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response 24 of 137:
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Jun 13 15:04 UTC 2000 |
When this thing finally is back up, Do you know how much mail is going to be
coming in?!?!?!
Make sur you load it slow!
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