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Microprocessor controllers and data loggers. Mark Unseen   May 19 14:03 UTC 1994

For discussing buying or building, and operating, micro microprocessor
data loggers or controllers. 

18 responses total.
rcurl
response 1 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 19 14:09 UTC 1994

I would like to build, or buy and adapt, one of the "micro" micro-
processor boards that are available for under $50, for data logging.
Ive seen them advertised with 8085, 8052 and 8031 processors. I
would prefer a CMOS type for low rest current drain, which can be
programmed/read with a RS232 interface to a PC, with several I/O
lines, etc. The purpose will be remote data logging with the unit
left in place for up to six months, recording the dates and times of
events, and possibly some analog parameters. Therefore the unit
must be asleep most of the time, and wakened at specified times, or
when a random event occurs, to record the date, time and parameter
value. Can anyone here help me to find and adapt a microprocessor for
this?
n8nxf
response 2 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 19 16:50 UTC 1994

find the data sheet to a Motorola HC-11.  If memory serves, these have
an A to D built right into the cip.  They also have RS-232.  The Circuit
Cellar BBS may also be worth a call r.e. this toppic: 203/871-1988.
rcurl
response 3 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 19 17:42 UTC 1994

I have an article about such a data logger from Circuit Cellar Ink, but
one would have to have built a lot of such devices before to make use
of the article. I need Data Loggers for Dummies. But calling the CCI
BBS might be the ticket (unless we have that experience in house).
rcurl
response 4 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 21 06:20 UTC 1994

I posted an inquiry on the CCI BBS. The board seems Ok for posting
messages (in 3 categories), but I didn't find a vast library of
circuits, etc. 
rcurl
response 5 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 29 21:33 UTC 1994

I got a response on the CCI BBS to the effect that if there had been
more about the 1990 article in CCI posted to the board, it would have
been posted. I did scan through a few thousand titles. However it 
looks like no one there either knows of complete instructions for that,
or any other, data logger. This is quite strange.
kentn
response 6 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 29 21:39 UTC 1994

Maybe they want you to buy up a lot of back issues where they cover
data loggers for dummies?  Is there a library at UM that carries CCI?

mkoch
response 7 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 30 16:02 UTC 1994

Well, I dunno, if you're looking for real early CCI stuff look through BYTE 
magazine 1980' and earlier. 
rcurl
response 8 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 30 16:14 UTC 1994

I don't think they were doing embedded 8031 CMOS controllers then.
mkoch
response 9 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 31 01:51 UTC 1994

Uhh, I think they had a 8031 project, with all the stuff coming later (term,
gfx card, SCSI interface) and then a 8031 multiprocessor project. Could be
that it was a 8051, hmm, nope, well, look it up, maybe it gives you a couple
ideas, maybe not. Nope, seems like it was a 8052, well, similar...
byte  aug 85, jan 84, multiproc oct 88 ff
rcurl
response 10 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 31 04:35 UTC 1994

Thanks. Noted. I'll have a look. Maybe if its specific enough I could
figure out what the CCI 1990 design has as "improvements".
mkoch
response 11 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 31 12:24 UTC 1994

okidoki...
kentn
response 12 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 31 15:34 UTC 1994

Pulled up Mirlyn yesterday and looked at "s=embedded computer" and
got a few hits.  Not sure any of them are what you are looking for,
though (and I expect you've already done this exercise anyway).  At
any rate, there appear to be several embedded processor-type books
in the UM Engineering library that are copyrighted in the last 2-3
years.  This information just *must* be somewhere where we can find
it!
rcurl
response 13 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 31 20:47 UTC 1994

Easy enough for me to look (the Engineering library is downstairs),
but those I've seen before are all theory - how else do you get to
250-350 pages? I'm just looking for parts list and instructions . 
Libraries usually don't keep such practical things.
kentn
response 14 of 18: Mark Unseen   May 31 23:47 UTC 1994

That's what I was afraid of.
danr
response 15 of 18: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 02:41 UTC 1994

You used to be able to find these things advertised in the computer
mags all the time.  How much do you want to spend on this puppy?  I see
one advertised in the March 1994 Byte magazine for $500, but I think
this is probably a little more than you had in mind.

Here's another advertised for $200, but I'm not sure this one has an
A-to-D on it.
rcurl
response 16 of 18: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 06:17 UTC 1994

You can get the 8031 plus I/O on board for ca. $50, but I don't know
how to make it do what I need - if it can. Or, did you mean a complete
mico data-logger? Yes, I have a list of sources, near the $$ you cite.
Generally, too much. 
danr
response 17 of 18: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 12:00 UTC 1994

If you have the info on the 8031 board, let me have a look at 
it sometime.  I could determine if it will do what you want.
I used to work for a data logger company and was teh project engineer
on a project that developed a temperature meter based on the 8031/8051.
rcurl
response 18 of 18: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 14:52 UTC 1994

That's great, Dan! I will gather my materials, and bring them to the
board meeting. 
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