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gibson
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Boy, did I get a steal! Prices then and now.
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Mar 24 20:56 UTC 1998 |
In reading the old entries, I'm amused at the remarks about the cheap
prices, ( 486sx for only $4000.00 ). What did you pay then and what did or
will you pay to replace it now?
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dang
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response 1 of 28:
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Mar 24 22:27 UTC 1998 |
I paid $2500 for my Pentium 90 with 725 MB of hard drive, 8 MB of RAM, 4x
CD-ROM, 13 inch svga monitor, Sound Blaster Pro sound card, and speakers.
I probably wouldn't pay much more than that to replace it. However, it's
tough to say what I'd pay, because now I'm slowly building a new system.
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gibson
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response 2 of 28:
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Mar 25 00:20 UTC 1998 |
I forgot to ask, will you also mention how long ago you bought your
old system.
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dang
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response 3 of 28:
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Mar 25 01:24 UTC 1998 |
Sorry, I meant to say that. It was 3 years ago.
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raven
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response 4 of 28:
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Mar 26 17:50 UTC 1998 |
Well I bought a Mac Classic in 1991 for 1,000, worth about 30 now I
expect. BTW that has a 40 m HD 4 megs of ram and 10?" b & w screen.
After that in 1993 I upgraded to a used Mac LCIII 80m HD 8 m ram,
8 bit color & sound something like 700. After that in the winter of
1995 I got a 386 notebook 80m HD 8 m RAM b & W LCD display & 14
color monitor, 4 bit color, no sound for like 600. Currently I have
a pentium 75 desktop 1.6 gb, 24 bit color, 40 m. That I have invested just
under a thousand in, I don't plan to upgrade it anytime soon. I started
building this system last summer BTW.
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keesan
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response 5 of 28:
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Mar 27 23:25 UTC 1998 |
Zenith 148 with two floppy drives, monochrome monitor (which required a $100
slot to be added), Star SX 9-pin printer, in 1985, about $2000. Kiwanis is
now selling the above for under $50 total.
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wolfg676
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response 6 of 28:
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Apr 11 10:46 UTC 1998 |
I bought my first computer (Tandon PC/XT clone, 8088-4.77MHz, 640K, 83-key
keyboard, monochrome/CGA 13" monitor, 2 720K 5-1/4" floppies, 25MB hard disk,
DOS 3.3, Win85) for $50 from some guy in a parking lot in 1995. I later
purchased a 386dx/25 for $10 from Computer Renaissance in A2, that came with
1MB RAM, and a 660MB HD. My current box, K6-233, 96MB RAM, 2.7GB & 1.6GB HDD,
6x4 CD-ROM, 3-1/2" & 5-1/4" combo floppy, Stealth II S220 video, 33.6 modem,
S23A/AW32 16-bit & wavetable sound, satellite/subwoofer speaker set, and NEC
15" monitor, cost me <$900 to assemble in the past five months, in that same
case that was originally a $10 386.
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omni
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response 7 of 28:
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Apr 11 16:35 UTC 1998 |
My very first computer was a Zenith H89 that ran cp/m. It was free.
I bought an XT with a 10M Hd, 640k of memory, 1 360k floppy, and
monochrome for $50. I had that for quite a while.
Last year, I built a 386 from junk parts I had lying about the house. The
most costly thing was the $5 keyboard adapter. Still have it, and it is my
backup, should I need it.
I am currently using a 486DX33 with VGA and an fast modem. I received it
as a birthday present from my Mom. I also have another 386 that I bought for
$25. It will serve also as a backup.
I am building a 486DX66, but slowly. I still need to aquire the
motherboard, video card, hard drive, etc. I have no timetable on this project,
or could just be done with the whole thing and drop the DX66 chip into the
box I'm using now; but in the words of the immortal George Bush-- Not gonna
do it. Wouldn't be prudent. ;)
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scott
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response 8 of 28:
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Apr 11 18:54 UTC 1998 |
Why not? You'd still have the 486/33 for your future machine, along with the
time you saved by using the faster chip.
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omni
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response 9 of 28:
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Apr 12 06:47 UTC 1998 |
Simply because A) I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to that and B)
I know to leave well enough alone. (If it ain't broke, don't fix it). Learned
that one the hard way.
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raven
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response 10 of 28:
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Aug 18 16:56 UTC 1998 |
Anybody know where I can get a p5-166 (no mmx) capable motherboard for cheap
(20 or less)?
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wolfg676
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response 11 of 28:
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Aug 18 17:18 UTC 1998 |
Are you looking for one with or without a CPU? Computer Renaissance has them
w/o CPU for around $30-40. I you want a CPU to put on it, those are a bit
overpriced there, IMHO.
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omni
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response 12 of 28:
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Aug 19 04:58 UTC 1998 |
Try Computer Alley on Jackson. They frequently have motherboards and other
fun stuff cheap.
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omni
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response 13 of 28:
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Aug 19 05:00 UTC 1998 |
Hey, who would like to do a chip-ectomy on my 486? Not that I actually
need it, but it might make this monster run a little better. I still ain't
gonna fool with it. I would like to find someone who actually has done this
and who has a lesser tendency to screw it up. ;)
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raven
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response 14 of 28:
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Aug 20 02:37 UTC 1998 |
I have the p5-166 currently only running at 100 because my current mb maxes
out at 100 at least according to the pin setting on the board itself.
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kentn
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response 15 of 28:
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Aug 21 22:26 UTC 1998 |
Chip-ectomy? If you remove the CPU, it for sure won't run any better.
If the CPU is in a ZIF socket, replacement should be easy.
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omni
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response 16 of 28:
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Aug 22 05:34 UTC 1998 |
Well I meant more of an transplant. I'm not going to do it simply because
I'm not qualified, and because I have $200 wound up in this machine.
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scott
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response 17 of 28:
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Aug 23 19:29 UTC 1998 |
It's really not that hard. Many people have bought Overdrive chip kits and
done their own, with less experience than you have.
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arthurp
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response 18 of 28:
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Sep 6 05:31 UTC 1998 |
Or I could do it sometime. I'm guessing you have another chip you want
to put in? I hope the board is clearly marked with setting info, or you
have the manual for that board. Otherwise it can be kinda hard to get
the settings right.
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scott
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response 19 of 28:
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Sep 6 11:41 UTC 1998 |
From a DX33 to a DX66 there *are* no settings changes.
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arthurp
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response 20 of 28:
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Sep 8 01:53 UTC 1998 |
If that is the proposed change, and we're not talking about the AMD 486
DX-2 3Volt, and, and, and...
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omni
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response 21 of 28:
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Sep 8 05:50 UTC 1998 |
My computer is an Austin 433DX, and the chip I have is 486DX66, I think.
Charles, you would know more about that chip (It's the one you gave me).
I don't know what the exact advantage would be if I went to the other chip,
and I am guessing here, that there wouldn't be much of a difference.
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scott
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response 22 of 28:
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Sep 8 10:40 UTC 1998 |
I did that upgrade a few years ago, andf it seemed like about 20% faster.
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arthurp
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response 23 of 28:
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Sep 9 23:46 UTC 1998 |
Ah, that would be an Intel chip then. 5volt. Should be pull and push unless
something unusual happens. For serious computation it should be, at a guess,
1.8 times faster. For anything I/O bound it won't be faster. All in all
it'll be a bit faster. Back when I did it I noticed a big speedup in .jpg
image decompression. Loading Windows was about the same.
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dang
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response 24 of 28:
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Oct 5 20:02 UTC 1998 |
(Actually, since IDE requires the processor to handle I/O, it's possible
that a faster processer would speed up I/O bound processes if they were
disk bound rather than user bound.)
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