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albaugh
"forensic(s)" etymology Mark Unseen   Jan 29 08:30 UTC 1994

Can anyone provide the etymology to show the difference between
"forensics" as in "debating" and "forensic" (medicine) as in "pathology" ?
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davel
response 1 of 5: Mark Unseen   Jan 29 14:26 UTC 1994

This isn't etymolgy as such: my dictionary assumes that there's no difference.
I'll quote:

> 1. Pertaining to or employed in legal proceedings or argumentation:
> _forensic medicine_.  2. Of, pertaining to, or employed in debate or
> argument; rhetorical.

The etymology it gives is Latin _forensis_, from _forum_, & refers you
to the Appendix on *dhwer-*, which I'll forego following up.  Is there
a problem with this?  Debate, in court or out, is the common element,
I think.

albaugh
response 2 of 5: Mark Unseen   Jan 29 23:31 UTC 1994

Curious that my understanding of "forensic medicine" - pathology, i.e.
determining cause of death - would have adopted this "debate" component for
its terminology.  Maybe they thought it was an inexact science, open for
debate by attorneys?  "How can you be sure that arrow thru the heart really
killed him?"  :-)
davel
response 3 of 5: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 01:41 UTC 1994

I suspect that the reason "forensic" got applied to pathology is that it
was seriously pursued as an aid to legal procedings - determination of cause
of death being needed for determination of whether a crime has been committed,
etc.
srw
response 4 of 5: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 01:45 UTC 1994

Yes, I don't believe forensic medicine is a direct reference to
pathology at all. Rather it is a reference to medicine used in court.
Admittedly, this is very often pathology.
keesan
response 5 of 5: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 04:42 UTC 1998

The Russian for forensic medicine is literally 'court medicine'.  There is
another phrase that translates 'forensic chemistry'.
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