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polygon
Between the sidewalk and the curb Mark Unseen   Jun 23 11:28 UTC 1993

What term do YOU use for the strip of (usually) grassy space between the
sidewalk and the street?

I've noticed that the term used in one place is unrecognized in another,
and vice versa.  Is this something that varies from one town to another
depending on strictly local tradition, or is it regional?
46 responses total.
md
response 1 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 11:45 UTC 1993

It was called the "tree belt" in Massachusetts.
chelsea
response 2 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 11:56 UTC 1993

The easement.
remmers
response 3 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 12:13 UTC 1993

I've heard it called the "margin" by a lawyer, so that's what I've been
calling it.
katie
response 4 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 13:25 UTC 1993

 Why, are you scared of lawyers?
robh
response 5 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 13:44 UTC 1993

The grassy knoll!
vidar
response 6 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 16:31 UTC 1993

The city owned part of the lawn.
davel
response 7 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 17:12 UTC 1993

I grew up calling it "the parkway".  Since moving to MI I've heard it called
"the extension" (or "the lawn extension").
jdg
response 8 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 23:34 UTC 1993

re 2: That's an incorrect use, most likely.  Easements are areas on your
property (that you own) that utilities can dig up or drive bulldozers
through.  See your mortgage paperwork, the survey will have the easements
marked.  Usually, they're for buried gas lines and areas under power lines.
tnt
response 9 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 01:17 UTC 1993

 The rumpkin.
wh
response 10 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 03:11 UTC 1993

re #4. GOOD one, Katie.   I've never heard anyone give it a name before.
ecl
response 11 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 04:56 UTC 1993

The Bus stop
The Trash Pile
rcurl
response 12 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 05:42 UTC 1993

Verge.
arabella
response 13 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 07:00 UTC 1993

The berm.

chelsea
response 14 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 11:10 UTC 1993

Oh, but the city can (and does) dig up this easement if they need
to access lines or mains.  The homeowner is obligated to follow rules
regarding maintenance and there are limitations on what can be
installed or constructed in this area. Trees located within this
area are not the homeowner's trees yet I believe the homeowner 
maintains some liability.

But you're probably right and this is not a correct legal term.
It's just what I call it.
mju
response 15 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 22:20 UTC 1993

I've heard it called the "lawn extension" or "extension" as well.
polygon
response 16 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 22:39 UTC 1993

In East Lansing, it was pretty much universally called "the parkway".

Here in Ann Arbor, my landlord insists on calling it "the lawn extension".
(He's lived in Ann Arbor all his life and says he's never heard it called
anything but that.
davel
response 17 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 00:43 UTC 1993

(Rane or Jennie, how about linking this to language?)
rcurl
response 18 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 05:27 UTC 1993

I was thinking of doing that, but then, everyone reads this hear, so
why would someone want to read it again in Language? Nevertheless, it
is an opportunity to practice my new fairwitnessry, so let me see if I
can figure out the arcane instructions I have.........
mta
response 19 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 05:57 UTC 1993

The reason to link stuff from Agora to a specialty conference, OMO as a 
FW with several years experience  ;) , is that it'll hang around there
considerably after Agora has rolled over to the next season for the
enjoyment of those who choose to go there later.

or something like that.
rcurl
response 20 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 06:43 UTC 1993

I have linked this item to language (item 42). I just noticed, though,
that this item here (I do know how to spell this word, but have lapses)
is itself linked - from where? Actually, it was fun: POWER! 
remmers
response 21 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 11:04 UTC 1993

(When you link an item to another conference, it's labeled as "linked"
in both conferences.  "Linked" is a symmetric property -- Picospan doesn't
record which conference was the original one.)
rcurl
response 22 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 14:21 UTC 1993

Well, back to the subject....we don't have a "lawn extension", because
there is no sidewalk. Nevertheless, several feet of our lawn near the
road is road easement. Is that still the "lawn extension" according to
those using that term?
polygon
response 23 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 15:53 UTC 1993

The physical road or street is built in a government-owned strip of
land known as the "right-of-way".  Usually the R.O.W. is fifty to 66
feet wide (66 was the standard for rural roads in Michigan, many of
which of course go on to become urban streets).

If the R.O.W., say, is 50 feet wide, and the street itself is 24
feet wide, that leaves another 13 feet on each side.  If there's a
four foot wide sidewalk, seven feet back from the curb, that means
the edge of the right-of-way is two feet back from the sidewalk, or
to put it a different way, as you walk from your house toward the
street, your property ends two feet before the sidewalk.

Those are fairly typical values, but YOUR MILEAGE WILL VARY!!  The
only way to know about property boundaries with any precision would
be to examine the official survey of the property, or have one made.
The point I'm making is that the sidewalk is almost always built on
public land, and not necessarily right up against the edge of the
right-of-way.

Note also that where a very large road widening is contemplated, the
city or state may be in a position of having to buy extra land from
the fronting property owners.

An easement is a whole different thing.  Most often in this context it
would have to do with portions of your lot to which a public utility
has some limited rights.
katie
response 24 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 16:05 UTC 1993

I always knew it as an extension.
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