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janc
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The Dateh of Slelnlipg
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Sep 16 12:45 UTC 2003 |
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses
and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed
ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.
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mynxcat
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response 1 of 42:
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Sep 16 14:38 UTC 2003 |
I understood the text of the post, but I ended up reading it slower than I
normally do. Couldn't comprehend the title, till after I read the post.
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janc
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response 2 of 42:
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Sep 16 15:33 UTC 2003 |
Yeah, I think the text is a bit contrived. Like uinervtisy has the "t" in
about the right place. utsverniiy is much harder to read. Shorter words
however do seem to wrok almost any way you type them, and there are enough
shorter words in most texts so that it becomes easier to guess longer words
from context. That's what makes the title hard to read - not enough context.
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remmers
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response 3 of 42:
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Sep 16 15:43 UTC 2003 |
Riigd cofidicatoin of sleplnig ruels is a rletaivley reecnt deevolmenpt
in the hitsroy of the Ensilgh lungagae aynawy.
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mynxcat
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response 4 of 42:
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Sep 16 16:25 UTC 2003 |
That I did not know. I thought rules were always rigid, but spelling changed
slowly as the oral language chanfed.
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rcurl
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response 5 of 42:
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Sep 16 16:26 UTC 2003 |
This item, agora 226 (Summer 2003) has been linked to language 123.
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tod
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response 6 of 42:
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Sep 16 17:01 UTC 2003 |
This response has been erased.
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newjp2
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response 7 of 42:
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Sep 16 17:11 UTC 2003 |
This response has been erased.
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newjp2
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response 8 of 42:
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Sep 16 17:13 UTC 2003 |
I have a lex program that filters for this. It was in 7, but cannot just ide
it (like censor in YAPP?).
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rcurl
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response 9 of 42:
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Sep 16 17:22 UTC 2003 |
I shared this with my son, who observed you can also drop all the vowels,
even after the first operation:
ccdrng t rschrch t n lngsh nrvts, t dn't mttr n wht rdr th lttrs in wrd r,
th ln prmtnt thng s tht frst nd lst lttr s t th rght pcl. Th rst cn b ttl
mss nd y cn stll rd it wtht prblm. Ths s bcs w d nt rd rv lttr b tslf bt
th wrd s wlh.
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mynxcat
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response 10 of 42:
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Sep 16 17:29 UTC 2003 |
The dropped vowels don't work as well as the approach in #0. I've noticed that
you can drop vowels in frequently used words, or words that have few vowels
and the meaning won't be lost. In less frequently used words that have too
many vowels, this approach is harder to comprehend
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rcurl
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response 11 of 42:
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Sep 16 17:33 UTC 2003 |
N dbt bt t.
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albaugh
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response 12 of 42:
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Sep 16 19:48 UTC 2003 |
My totally unscientific opinion is that it's the *shape* of a word that gets
recognized, perhaps with recognizing the first letter. I don't believe the
last letter is that important. After a while the combinations of letters in
a certain shape become a pattern to be recognized, not a molecular formula
to be decomposed.
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gull
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response 13 of 42:
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Sep 16 20:32 UTC 2003 |
Re #4: Nope, spelling actually varied a lot until the first English
dictionaries were published.
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dah
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response 14 of 42:
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Sep 16 22:15 UTC 2003 |
Yet another testimony to the stubborness of language.
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rcurl
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response 15 of 42:
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Sep 16 23:00 UTC 2003 |
(Drift, but concerning Slelnlipg: my 4 year old granddaughter, who likes
to be read to but has shown no apparent interest in the words in the books
or their spelling, and her parents have had some concern about her not yet
reading, asked from her car seat in the back of the car, while being
driven to school, "why are there two o's in zoo?".)
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twenex
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response 16 of 42:
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Sep 16 23:22 UTC 2003 |
Tmbn hy q decr q ls rsltds d l nvstgcn n s plcn ncsrmnt . n lng cm spnl.
Mlecazr tood lsa ltreas ed als plbraas epsalnosa prbloablmeeent csaua prblmeas
snigfianctes pro al cpreonsnio dle ttxeo.
(Hint, the above text is written in Spanish. Perhaps munkey or another native
spanish speaker would like to tell us if this works in Castilian?)
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dah
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response 17 of 42:
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Sep 16 23:32 UTC 2003 |
Really? Spanish! It's perfectly parsable in English too!
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twenex
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response 18 of 42:
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Sep 16 23:55 UTC 2003 |
The ability to spout words like "parsable" does not one a linguist make.
Fortunately.
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dah
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response 19 of 42:
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Sep 17 00:18 UTC 2003 |
I bet you don't know what it says in English.
Fortunately. (Or you'd be embarassed you wrote it.)
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twenex
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response 20 of 42:
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Sep 17 00:23 UTC 2003 |
Bzzzt! Wrong, but thankyou for playing.
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carson
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response 21 of 42:
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Sep 17 02:09 UTC 2003 |
(wow. the first words that occurred to me while trying to read the first
paragraph of resp:16 were Spanish words, but I'd managed to convince myself
that it was supposed to be in English, based on the rest of the item.
bravo!)
(data point: I haven't had any problem reading any of the entries with
transposed letters, but I found that losing vowels slowed my reading
considerably.)
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janc
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response 22 of 42:
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Sep 17 02:21 UTC 2003 |
Re 8: The cmoanmd to hdie a rocpsnee in Psapcion is "ergapxtue." Or if you
use Fanltrotk, you can jsut type "hdie."
I'm tiryng to keep wrod sehaps arppemixloaty ccerort in tihs rocpsnee.
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mynxcat
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response 23 of 42:
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Sep 17 02:23 UTC 2003 |
What's that command in Picospan again? Somehow, I find it more difficult
reading this response than #0
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russ
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response 24 of 42:
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Sep 17 02:47 UTC 2003 |
Word scrambler from Greg Cronau:
#include <stdio.h>
main(){int i,j,l;char c,*b,*d,*e,f[2<<9],g[2<<9];srandom(time(0));while(b
=fgets(f,2<<9,stdin)){do{for(d=g,e=b;isalpha(*d++=*b++););if((l=((d-g)-1))>
3){for(c=g[1],i=2;(i<(l-1))&&(g[i]==c);i++);if(i<(l-1)){while(strncmp(e,g,l
)==0)for(i=1;i<(l-1);c=g[i],g[i]=g[j=(random()%(l-2))+1],g[j]=c,i++);strncpy
(e,g,l);}}}while(*(b+=*--b?1:0));fputs(f,stdout);}}
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