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Healthy Eating on a Low Budget Mark Unseen   Dec 22 15:17 UTC 1996

Hi all!  Those of you who know me, know that I am currently operating on a
very low budget and will continue to do so for the next five years.  This is
also the first time in my life I've had to take care of my own meals and have
been having problems in general.  I never had to learn to cook while growing
up and in college, had meal plan to keep me happy.  So now I am faced with
the what to do for food dilemma.  I'd like to be able to stay on a healthy
diet and not live off of cheap fast food, but I also have limited time and
cooking skills.  So does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do for
meals?  Any advice is greatly appreciated!
43 responses total.
void
response 1 of 43: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 21:33 UTC 1996

   soup is pretty cheap and easy to make at home. you can make a big pot on
a day off, refrigerate some and freeze some, and have quick healthy meals for
the rest of the week.
popcorn
response 2 of 43: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 23:18 UTC 1996

Spaghetti.  Rice and beans (there are some variations on that which are cheap,
nutritious, good-tasting, and need minimal attention while cooking, although
the cooking process may well take a while).  Invest in a copy of Betty Crocker
for ideas and a broad overview of cooking basics.  Look for "campus kitchen
survival guide" type cookbooks.  In Ann Arbor, you can generally find a good
variety of cookbooks at super-cheap prices at the Friends of the Public
Library book sales.  If your town has sales like that, this may well be worth
looking for.
eeyore
response 3 of 43: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 04:07 UTC 1996

good books:
betty crocker is a must....there is the basic, and there is also a new one
that is called quick and easy, or something like that...it's actually reall
nice!  also, any moosewood could be good.  like valerie said, look at book
sales and used book stores...and never be afraid to experiment!!!!  also
always remeber things like a whole chicken will feed you for a few days, plus
you can cook the bones for great stock!  ramen, while not necessarily the best
stuff in the world, is cheap, which sometimes can be nice.
ajax
response 4 of 43: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 10:32 UTC 1996

  I'll third the Betty suggestion.  I also agree with Valerie's
rice & bean, and spaghetti suggestions.  $3 in rice, beans, and
an onion can feed you for a week!  (Though it gets boring :-).
Also, a $3 jar of Ragu and a $1.50 box of pasta makes several
meals, and you can toss in whatever fresh veggies you have.  I
cook single helpings of pasta, but you can also cook a bunch at
a time, mixed w/the sauce, for easy reheating...good for a busy
schedule.  Sandwiches are also cheap and nutritional depending
on the bread and what you put on them...a $2 loaf can make ten
sandwiches...cheese & veggies or peanut butter and jelly are
fairly economical.  Other food bargains (in my opinion): eggs
(cooked however you like), potatoes (same), Ramen noodles, rice
(packaged instant rice mixes are pricier, but still cheap for
the amount of food).  Cheap fruits and veggies vary in price by
season, though bags of non-fancy apples usually seem like a good
deal.
 
  Vitamin/mineral supplements can also save money while keeping
you healthy.  For example, if you can't afford to drink milk
regularly, but need more calcium in your diet, take calcium
supplements and drink water :-).
 
  In general, preparing food like the above saves a lot over
ordering pizzas, going to fast food joints, and buying frozen
dinners.  You can fix a decent meal for $0.50-$1, while those
other options are more like $2-$6.  Even Taco Bell meals can
add up!
scott
response 5 of 43: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 02:08 UTC 1996

You can make your own granola, pretty cheaply.  My Dad has been doing it for
years, and I'm going to start Some Day Soon.  Just oats and some other things,
and honey.  Unlike classic granola, you can leave out the oil and not really
notice any difference.  That and skim milk is a pretty good breakfast deal.
popcorn
response 6 of 43: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 05:53 UTC 1996

I've never made granola myself, but I once had a roommate who did it.  The
whole house smelled wonderful.  I think it was the smell from the kitchen that
got me to finally try granola for the first time.  Her granola was wonderful
stuff.
void
response 7 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 07:15 UTC 1997

   can you post the recipe, scott? there aren't too many breakfast cereals
i like, and grape-nuts get kinda boring after a while.
e4808mc
response 8 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 07:32 UTC 1997

I beg to differ with the Betty Crocker crowd.  Joy of Cooking, in any edition
has far more information that lets you really learn to cook, and learn to
improvise.  Especially the chapters The Foods We Eat, and The Foods We Heat.
Reading it will tell you all you need to know about when you *must* sift the
flour, or measure it exactly and when the recipe really means "spoon some
flour into a half-cup measure, and toss it in".
  
As for cooking rice and beans, the Diet For a Small Planet books are great
for tasty combinations.  The author disagrees with herself now, about the
precise combination she suggested in the first edition.  Turns out that you
get the protein advantage just by eating things in the same day or so. 
  
If you are interested in low-fat, low-cost, try the MacDougall cookbooks. 
Almost vegan in their selection of foods, but extremely healthy and relatively
inexpensive vegetables, rice, beans, bread, etc.  
davel
response 9 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 10:56 UTC 1997

I also have to question the general usefulness of Betty Crocker.  We've got
it, we use it ... but ... if you ever want to cook a wombat, be assured that
it's going to tell you to start with a canned wombat.

(Note that it's been through many, many editions over the years.  The one I
know was one current somewhere around 1970.  My mother says that hers is much
more basic and useful.  The ones current today might be, for all I know.)
popcorn
response 10 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 20:09 UTC 1997

When I was getting started cooking, I found Joy Of Cooking was very
overwhelming, because it is so encyclopaedic.  Betty was about my speed,
because she had recipes for everything I wanted to cook, and the instructions
were pretty straightforward.  In Joy Of Cooking, if I went to look up how to
cook a wombat, each of the three wombat recipes would point me toward four
other related topics I ought to read about, each of which would point me to
four other places, ad infinitum.  I like Joy Of Cooking a lot as a reference
book, but think it's a bit overwhelming for a beginning cook to try to cook
from.
remmers
response 11 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 13:21 UTC 1997

With all those links, it sounds like Joy of Cooking would be a
goo candidate for posting on the web.
remmers
response 12 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 13:21 UTC 1997

(good, even)
scott
response 13 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 14:53 UTC 1997

I once had to write an essay about a practical use for hypertext (this was
slightly pre-Web).  I wrote something, but a day or so later  was kicking
myself for not thinking of Joy of Cooking.

I like JoC, but for me the problem is that even muffins seem to call for about
ten odd ingredients I don't have, like fresh diced wombat.  ;)
popcorn
response 14 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 16:38 UTC 1997

Yes, accompanied by an admonition that you'll ruin everything if you use
canned wombat instead.
scott
response 15 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 17:10 UTC 1997

The Helmke Granola receipe:

5 units rolled oats
1 unit shredded coconut
1 unit wheat germ
1 unit bran (either oat or wheat is OK)
1 unit nuts (optional)
1 unit sunflower seeds
1 unit (or slightly less) honey

Bake at 325 deg. F in large pan (turkey roaster works great), uncovered,
stirring and turning over every 20 minutes or so.  Takes about 1.5 hours to
bake, and you really need to watch it at the end.

Add raisins or other dried fruit after baking (optional).

There's still some fat in this, due to the nuts and seeds.  The original
involved maybe 1/2 a unit of oil, too.

(The "unit" is an arbitrary volume measure)
e4808mc
response 16 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 20:05 UTC 1997

There is an amazing amount of saturated fat in the shredded coconut, too. 
And wheat germ has a lot of fat (although a better kind).  
scott
response 17 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 23:47 UTC 1997

I'll probably cut down on the fatty stuff when I get around to making this
myself.  Oats and honey isn't too bad a mix.
valerie
response 18 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 00:24 UTC 1997

Catriona -- I'm under the impression that wheat germ varies a lot in its fat
content.  I'm not sure I have my wheat germs straight here, but I'm under the
impression that the toasted kind has tons o' fat, while the raw kind doesn't.
At least, the Nutrition Facts information on the bin of raw wheat germ at the
co-op lists a rather low amount of fat.
omni
response 19 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 05:20 UTC 1997

  When I was living in Port Huron, I had a limited budget for food. I learned
what to buy and what not to. Ramen is a good staple, and makes a good addition
to a sandwich (grilled cheese.
  I would buy the big 64 pack of American Cheese, then I would hit the bakery
thrift store for bread, usually 4 to 6 loaves for a buck. A big jar of peanut
butter, and jelly usually lasts for a while. As for soup, Campbells Tomato
is a good deal, but only if it's on sale. 
  For dinners, I would buy Hamburger Helper, which can be stretched into 2
nights, as can a whole chicken, but only if you can clean it. One of my best
ways to save money is to buy a whole chicken, take it to the butcher and ask
nicely to have him cut it up for you. 99 times out of 100 they will without
adding an extra charge. (The prepackaged chicken is usually 30 cents more per
pound, and the only difference is that they cut it for you). 
  Read the flyers and clip coupons. Plan your meals around what's on sale.
If you can get the staples on sale, then you're even farther ahead of the
game. Make a list and stick to it. Add nothing, not even a pack of gum, but
make an allowance for slippage, like $5, because speaking realistically,
you're gonna slip at first.
  If you have access to a freezer, buy in quantity if you can, and USE IT!
void
response 20 of 43: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 08:11 UTC 1997

   thanks for the recipe, scott. next time i go grocery shopping i'll pick
up the ingredients and try it out. it sounds yummy.
tsty
response 21 of 43: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 08:47 UTC 1997

bulk buy is good.
both rice and pasta-stuff can be made in large quantities and saved
in the refrigerator for a few days (refrig ~34-36F).
  
a large bag of frozen veggies is pretty inexpensive, goes a long way.
 
condensed soups are a *great* base for making 'other stuff' which
turns out like stews and thick soups.
  
also... remember that a 20# turkey is really cheap, and the large
quantity of leftovers save well in the freezer. (it's the bulk idea).
  
potatoes are good and inexpensive (and easy/fast cooking in microwave)
  
hamburger/tuna helper are good *starts* for foods, add other things
as your curiosity leads you.
  
the day-old-bread store is *great*. 
eeyore
response 22 of 43: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 07:00 UTC 1997

homemade sausage is actually pretty inexpensive...it all depend s on the meat
you get, and you don't need anything expensive...and that way, you can make
it as lean as you want!

also, the big bags of frozen tater tots.  :)
valerie
response 23 of 43: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 14:29 UTC 1997

(If I remember right, tater tots have an astronomical amount of fat in them.)
e4808mc
response 24 of 43: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 18:39 UTC 1997

Tater tots do, but amazingly Ore-Ida frozen french fries dont.  (I think it
was Ore-Ida)  Anyway, check french fry labels, some brands don't have any
added fat.  
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