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popcorn
Welcome! Mark Unseen   Sep 6 21:42 UTC 1992

Welcome to the Kitchen conference!
This is where Grexies go to share recipes, cooking hints,
restaurant discussions, and lots more.

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Happy Cooking!!
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mistik
response 1 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 23:33 UTC 1992

/h1b/bbs/recipeinfo: No such file or directory

or if you have nosource

Ok: recipe
I don't understand "recipe" - type HELP for help
popcorn
response 2 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 7 00:18 UTC 1992

Oops - thanks!  It's fixed.  (Unless you have nosource).
popcorn
response 3 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 02:32 UTC 1992

Josh Grosse is our official Grex cooking conference archivist.  If you
want a copy of any items from the old version of the cooking conference,
send mail to jdg.

I'll be deleting oldcooking tomorrow; if you want anything linked over
please yell right away!
popcorn
response 4 of 116: Mark Unseen   Oct 5 03:41 UTC 1992

So, if this is October, where are the pumpkins?
It's nearly time for me to bore everybody to tears babbling
on and on and on about chocolate chip pumpkin bread.
headdoc
response 5 of 116: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 22:18 UTC 1992

My doctor has "suggested" I go on a low fat diet (30 grams of fat or less
per day.)  Since we all know that it is fat which makes food taste good, and
since I adore food that tastes good, has anyone got any really delicious
recipes for dishes that have few grams of fat?  Since I eat out at lunchtime
everyday, that's another problem.  I may take to carrying my own salad
dressing to the office. Any suggestions, short of changing MD's will be
appreciated.
arabella
response 6 of 116: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 00:40 UTC 1992

Thirty grams of fat per day sounds like about 12 percent of calories
per day...  Do you have serious cardiovascular problems?  I haven't
heard of anyone recommending less than 20-25 percent of calories
from fat except for anti heart disease programs, and of course,
Pritikin (10% of fat calories per day).  According to sources
such as Prevention Magazine, a normal amount of calories per day
for the average female to consume would be 2200, and 25% of those
calories in fat would work out to approximately 61 grams of fat
per day.  In any case, you might pick up some low fat cookbooks.
I recently bought "Low Fat and Loving It," by Ruth Spear.  It looks
pretty good, though I haven't cooked from it yet.
mythago
response 7 of 116: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 03:23 UTC 1992

Dean Ornish's program recommends 10% fat intake; it's really much
healthier than 25%.
  
The ol' Orange-Onion Chicken recipe:
2 chicken breasts, skins removed
1 envelope dried onion soup mix
1 6 oz. can orange juice concentrate (frozen)
  
Thaw the concentrate and mix it with the orange juice.  Put the chicken
in a pan and pour the orange-onion sauce over it.  Bake.  (I think
it's at 350 for 20-30 minutes; check your Betty Crocker guide.)
headdoc
response 8 of 116: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 16:19 UTC 1992

Thanks Leslie and Laurel.  No, I dont have any cardiovascular problems other
>than moderately high blood pressure (under medical control) and high
>tryglcerides.  I am 30 lbs overweight.  The MD strongly suggested the
>"T-Factor" Diet which allows you to eat as much as you want but to lose
>weight quickly and healthily, reduce fat intake (for a woman to 20-30 grams
>per day) for three weeks, then onto maintenance which is up to 40 grams per
>day.  I will try the chicken with oj and onion soup mix.  I also found
>some great salad dressing (no fat) recipes in the T factor diet book so I
>can eat lots of salads and fruits.  I'll look at low fat and loving it after
>I exhaust the recipes I am finding in this book.  One I'll share with you
>all soundsw3 delicious, but fair warning. . I haven't tried it yet:
>
>               2 chicken Breats, skin removed
                    1/2 cup coarsely chopped peeled fresh ginger
                 1 tablespoon coarsely chopped garlic
                 1/2 cup hoisin sauce
                 2 tbl. sugar (i will reduce this)
   
Chop all the ingredients besides the chicken in the food processor.
Broil chicken after marinating overnight in the sauce for 7-8 minutes
Hope it turns out well.
headdoc
response 9 of 116: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 16:26 UTC 1992

Re: #8, I left out 2 tablespoons soy sauce (i use low salt soy sauce) from
the above recipe.
arabella
response 10 of 116: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 08:02 UTC 1992

Dean Ornish was the anti heart disease program I was thinking of,
I think.  The big problem with trying to stick with 10% of calories
from fat is that it's really hard to make things taste good and
feel good in the mouth.  Not impossible, I suppose, but more work
than I'm willing to put in.  I'd be really happy if I could adjust
comfortably to 25% of calories from fat.  
mythago
response 11 of 116: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 13:09 UTC 1992

It's not that hard to make food that's low fat, but it is hard to
FIND food (in restaurants and at the grocery store) that's low in
fat.  Also, that's 10% total calories from fat, so you could eat
(say) a chicken dish with fatty sauce and a side of wild rice which
has no fat, as long as your total intake was no more than 10%.
  
The Produce Station carries some salad dressings--I think they're
called "Paula's Dressings" or something--which are fat-free amd
yummy.
tnt
response 12 of 116: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 22:26 UTC 1992

Become a vegetarian.
popcorn
response 13 of 116: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 00:38 UTC 1992

eew!   ;)
headdoc
response 14 of 116: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 20:20 UTC 1992

A vegetarian with no dairy products (to reduce fat intake) now, that would
be hard to digest.
popcorn
response 15 of 116: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 23:28 UTC 1992

re #14 - eating vegetarians?  hm.  are you talking about something fun
or are you talking cannibalism?
hm...
tnt
response 16 of 116: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 03:09 UTC 1992

I eat vegetarian beaver.
tsty
response 17 of 116: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 02:57 UTC 1992

   << wrong cf ......sfsf>>
  
   <<oh, beavers ARE vegetarian, whoops>>
  
popcorn
response 18 of 116: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 03:14 UTC 1992

I compressed the files in the recipe archives and changed the
"recipe" commands so that they still work the same as always.
other
response 19 of 116: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 18:27 UTC 1994

Try this one on for size:  A low-fat *cream* sauce!
When I was cooking in a little restaurant in Bar Harbor, Maine, my employer
came up with this trick.  (I can't say it's been scientifically verified,
he and his wife lost three hundred pounds between them, and kept it off)
The cream sauce featured condensed *skim* milk.  I tasted it, and it was good.
I think the hard part is actually *finding* condensed skim milk, and I'm afraid
I cannot help with that...
headdoc
response 20 of 116: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 21:47 UTC 1994

Yes, I always use condensed skim milk in lieu of cream in recipes.  It comes
in a can and can be found in many large supermarkets.  I think Merchant
carries it.  I use it in pumpkin soup, in white sauces and anytime the recipe
calls for cream.
gwenm
response 21 of 116: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 16:44 UTC 1994

Has anyone tried such things as lemon &/or lime juice as marinades?
How about hot chinese mustard- real good on chicken.

on another subject...
anyone got any reciepes for friccassed kitty-cat?  Mine are driving me to
drink.

and speaking of drink...
for those homebrewers out there, spent grains baked into homemade bread makes
for real yummy stuff.

reduced calorie sauces... corn starch instead of flour.
reduced calorie foods... whole grains, esp. barley, rye, & millet...
cholesteral reduction ..olive oil, canola oil.

low calorie food- stir fry!
3 carrots               2 bell peppers          1 lg. spanish onion
2-4 stalks celery or bok choy                   1 head broccoli
1-2 sm dried hot peppers        fresh, finely chopped ginger    1-2 cloves
garlic 3-4 ozs chopped mushrooms       bean sprouts, if desired water chestnuts
or jeruselem artichokes Brown rice

put 2 tbs heat tolerent oil in a large wok
heat till metal is a dull red color, toss in crushed hot pepper, ginger &
garlic, stir around for a few seconds, toss on chopped carrot, stir, let cook,
toss in  onion, stir & let cook slightly, then  celery or bok choy, then bell
pepper, then chopped broccoli, then mushrooms, water chestnuts or jeruselem
artichokes, & bean sprouts.  cove, & let steam for 1-2 mins. & serve over Brown
rice & call it Nummy!
other
response 22 of 116: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 17:32 UTC 1994

I marinated chicken in Mead, Lemon, and Garlic once... Yummy!
I don't suspect that using a marinade of primarily lemon juice work do too well
for you.  Use it to accent.   (above: work-->would)
Ginger also makes a wonderful ingredient for marinade!!!  Use grated fresh
root.  I cut the skin off first.  I also eat the stuff straight 'cause I like 
it so much!
danr
response 23 of 116: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 12:15 UTC 1994

Are the old bread digests archived somewhere?  I'd like to get a couple
of the recents ones, such as 5.5-5.9, that I missed.
danr
response 24 of 116: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 12:16 UTC 1994

oppps. never mind. They give a mailing address for the archive in
the digest.
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