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dpc
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The "mkhomepage" Routine
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Mar 8 00:34 UTC 1997 |
I saw a reference in the Coop Conference to a routine called
"mkhomepage", which allows Grexers to create their own home pages.
Where did this routine come from and how does it work?
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valerie
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response 1 of 30:
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Mar 8 04:34 UTC 1997 |
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omni
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response 2 of 30:
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Mar 8 04:42 UTC 1997 |
You probably should know some HTML or you're going to be like I was.
Helpless until I learned some. But HTML is pretty easy, and straightforward,
and if someone like me can make a decent home page, anyone can. ;)
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valerie
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response 3 of 30:
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Mar 8 14:18 UTC 1997 |
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remmers
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response 4 of 30:
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Mar 8 14:26 UTC 1997 |
(But if you use <blink> I will personally seek you out and
strangle you... :)
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rcurl
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response 5 of 30:
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Mar 8 17:21 UTC 1997 |
This reminds me of the days before word processors were written. Formatting
your documents in arcane codes - like HTML. This happens, of course, at the
beginning of the development of a technology. A few might still want to do
it the hard way, but just as MS_WORD (etc) has replaced coding all the format
by hand, HTML WYSIWYG editors will replace HTML coding by hand. They
already have for me - life is too short.....
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dpc
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response 6 of 30:
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Mar 8 20:14 UTC 1997 |
Thanx, Valerie and others!
Now all I have to do is get up the nerve to try it...8-)
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gull
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response 7 of 30:
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Mar 8 21:05 UTC 1997 |
I prefer to do it by hand instead of use Netscape Gold's editor The reason
being, if there's a standard way to do something and a Netscape way, Gold
will use the Netscape way. Maybe this is a plot to make everyone's pages
incompatible with other browsers, I don't know.
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omni
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response 8 of 30:
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Mar 8 23:29 UTC 1997 |
Jump right in, Dave. The water's fine.
Actually, I used MacWeb to develop (yeah that's the term) my web page, and
it turned out pretty well; And while I'm at it, I should add that my web
page has been updated (added 2 essays). The address is http://www.cyberspac
e.
org/~omni let me know what you think
<set pimp mode=off>
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remmers
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response 9 of 30:
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Mar 8 23:54 UTC 1997 |
(Re #5: It is impossible to write an HTML WYSIWYG editor because
HTML is not a WYSIWYG thing. Instead the best you can do is
WYSIAWYGM -- What You See Is Approximately What You Get Maybe.)
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ryan1
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response 10 of 30:
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Mar 9 03:07 UTC 1997 |
Actually, you could, if the page was made ENTIRELY of one big GIF or JPG
file, or several combined :) But that wouldn't be practical.
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remmers
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response 11 of 30:
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Mar 9 03:37 UTC 1997 |
An HTML editor wouldn't help you much with one of those either.
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gull
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response 12 of 30:
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Mar 9 04:27 UTC 1997 |
Ahem...technically, HTML doesn't describe what something should look like --
it describes what something *is* and lets the browser decide how to display
it. That's why it's called a markup language, as opposed to being a page
description language, like Postscript. Of course, people are trying to turn
it into a page description language, so that's becoming less true as time
goes on.
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popcorn
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response 13 of 30:
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Mar 9 05:22 UTC 1997 |
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rcurl
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response 14 of 30:
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Mar 9 06:40 UTC 1997 |
You're right John - I should have said, WISIWIG.
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valerie
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response 15 of 30:
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Mar 9 17:25 UTC 1997 |
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introfw
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response 16 of 30:
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Mar 9 17:51 UTC 1997 |
This item has been linked from Agora 90 to Intro 154.
Type "join agora" at the Ok: prompt for discussion of
making, breaking, raking, shaking, and other topics
of general interest.
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janc
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response 17 of 30:
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Mar 9 20:01 UTC 1997 |
Re #5: Actually, most of the professors I know still use TeX or LaTeX as
their main word-processing systems. They aren't even faintly WYSIWYG and
still work like in the olden days -- obscure code words imbedded in your
text. However, I've yet to see any WYSIWYG word processor that has a good
chance of replacing them.
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rcurl
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response 18 of 30:
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Mar 9 22:09 UTC 1997 |
Really? I don't think any of my colleagues in chemical engineering are
using ReX anymore - since the UM mainframes were replaced by deskopts (and
the students are the ones that learned it, at the time). I never learned
it.
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scg
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response 19 of 30:
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Mar 9 22:47 UTC 1997 |
I'd believe that about computer science professors and mathamaticians, and
even one philosopher (my dad), but I'm assuming most non computer/math
professors probably aren't using tex. Wysiwyg word processors are much easier
to learn.
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rcurl
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response 20 of 30:
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Mar 10 01:39 UTC 1997 |
(I hereby copyright "ReX" and "deskopts"....might come in handy...)
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remmers
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response 21 of 30:
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Mar 10 12:28 UTC 1997 |
Re #12: With its limited collection of tags and no provision for
extensibility, HTML is a rather emaciated markup language. It's
just not very good for describing what a complex document "is".
The ability to loosely define appearance is its main strength,
and standards efforts seem to be focused on beefing up this
aspect of it. See the new HTML 3.2 standard, which has all kinds
of provisions for specifying appearance: e.g. table cell sizes
in pixels, font sizes, various kinds of justification, choice
of bullet appearance in lists, etc. etc.
If you're interested in decent markup, keep an eye on XML, a new
markup notation for content delivery via the web.
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n8rxs
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response 22 of 30:
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Mar 17 01:47 UTC 1997 |
I was at the university when people were still using that TeXT stuff for
setting up equations to printout it looked more hellish than what I had to do
to to the same thing on my old Apple II with ESC commands.
For a text only web page I found the stuff Valerie suggested more than
sufficient. I was glad to get one extra command from a friend, that beeing the
command needed to change th background color from gray to white (or whatever
color I wanted really.
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richard
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response 23 of 30:
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Mar 17 02:04 UTC 1997 |
its amazing how many places are using outdated software. The freenet in DC
I use still runs on Freeport software that was probably used on the very first
freenets years ago.
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valerie
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response 24 of 30:
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Mar 17 04:04 UTC 1997 |
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