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omni
The stupid Internet questions item Mark Unseen   Feb 15 06:21 UTC 1994

    This is sure to be a stupid question, but that never stopped me before.
How do I find out all the valid addresses from a particular site?

 for example, the free press has a site on the net as  det-freepress.com

so could I send mail to postmaster@det-freepress.com and get back a list
of all valid addresses at that particular site?

thanks for your help.
33 responses total.
gregc
response 1 of 33: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 09:21 UTC 1994

You could, if the postmaster at that sote was so inclined to bother making
up such a list and sending it back to you. :-)
Er, change "sote" to "site".

"postmaster" is just a mail alias that points to however has that
responsibility at a particular site. For instance, on this system,
anything sent to postmaster goes to meg and mju.

I think you need to be a little more precise with your question. I don't
know what exactly you are asking.
danr
response 2 of 33: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 12:07 UTC 1994

It's possible, but you'll have better success if you have a particular
user in mind.  I've requested single address from postmasters, giving
a reason for my request, and have been very successful.  I don't know
how forthcoming they would have been if I'd asked for a list of all
users.

kaplan
response 3 of 33: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 17:47 UTC 1994

Omni, where did you find out about this det-freepress site?  Neat!  What are
they planning to use it for?  What does it have to do with msen?

Oh yeah, I'm here to answer a question, not ask more of 'em.

The finger command might help you here.  Type at the next prompt, 

!finger @det-freepress.com

and you'll get back a list of the people who are signed on now and some
info about each of them.  The login (left column) is what goes before the @
sign when constructing an email address.  So if you see 'foo' as a login,
try sending mail to foo@det-freepress.com

If you know the login of the preson you want to contact, try this:

!finger emv@det-freepress.com

where emv is at least part of the name or login of your suspected user.
If it can, the finger program will return the person's login and other
information about him/her.

You can leave out the @grex.cyberspace.org when using finger to search for
other grex users.
omni
response 4 of 33: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 04:47 UTC 1994

 To answer your question. I saw the address in the Business section
on monday, a column written by D. Gillmore about computers and computing.
I was hoping that other free press personell like editors and reporters
would also have on-line addresses.
kaplan
response 5 of 33: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 11:55 UTC 1994

As this seems to have become the finger item, I have another question
about finger.  Sometimes I want to finger a person to see when (s)he was
on last. Long .plan files scrolling by can be worse than useless after
you've seen them a dozen times.  Is there a way to suppress the .plan from
finger's output?

remmers
response 6 of 33: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 12:04 UTC 1994

You could pipe the output of finger into the "head" command, thusly:

        finger -m kaplan | head -3

That would show you just the first three lines of finger output.
davel
response 7 of 33: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 16:57 UTC 1994

You can also use the   last   command, as in the following:

> $ last kaplan
> kaplan    ttyh4                     Wed Feb 16 06:01   still logged in
> kaplan    ttyh5                     Tue Feb 15 11:25 - 13:08  (01:42)
> ^C

If you do this, your interrupt key had better be working, or you will wait
a *long* time before it's done.  On the other hand, you can give more than
one user's name (or none, if you want to see everyone).
scg
response 8 of 33: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 03:47 UTC 1994

Is there an internet equivilant to last (or will last work over the net?)?
grey
response 9 of 33: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 03:44 UTC 1994

 
        Sometimes, last call times for a particular user are included along
with the output for a remote finger.  Other than that ...
mju
response 10 of 33: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 17:04 UTC 1994

Try "f -p username".  The "-p" switch tells finger to leave off the
.plan file.
davel
response 11 of 33: Mark Unseen   Feb 19 01:22 UTC 1994

Hmm.  Thanks much, Marc.  Didn't know that, but there are plenty of times
I might be interested.
rcurl
response 12 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 15:48 UTC 1994

I have a list of people from around the country (a non-profit board),
and I want to find the most convenient and economical internet access
for each of them. A few already have university internet access, so they
are taken care of. The rest don't know much about internet, so I'm
trying to find "connections" for them. I know there addresses and phone
numbers. How do I search for internet nodes for them that are local
phone calls? (I have a CIS account, so I have searched from within CIS
for local access for each - but there isn't any on CIS.)
rcurl
response 13 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 06:40 UTC 1994

Hello? Anyone there? Let me help the question by listing the cities
and phone exchanges from which I seek internet access:

Mississippi State  MS  (601)-324
Charles Town WV  (304)-725
Tuscaloosa  AL  (205)-752
Ellicot City  MD (410)-750
Shepherdstown  WV (304)-876
srw
response 14 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 06:51 UTC 1994

We're here, we just don't have a clue.
carl
response 15 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 17:46 UTC 1994

The only place that I would know of to check is alt.internet.services.
Unfortunately, trn crawls and a.i.s has a *very* low signal to noise
ratio.  If you have the time and interest, you could either look for
a FAQ there or post your question and hope that you get a response.

I realize this might not be much help, but it's all that I have to offer.
rcurl
response 16 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 14:30 UTC 1994

I posted my question on a Compuserve forum re telecommunications. A
response suggested I investigate Fidonet. I've heard the name, but don't
know what it is. What, where, how, why and when is FidoNet?
carl
response 17 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 16:49 UTC 1994

All I know about FidoNet is that it's a network of (privately owned?) 
computer systems throughout the US that used to offer low-cost file
transfer and/or mail.  There used to be a FidoNet in Ann Arbor which
had a BBS.

You could probably find out more by posting something in alt.internet.services
and request that responses be mailed to you here.
rcurl
response 18 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 21:09 UTC 1994

What are the steps for posting to alt.internet.services (I tried usenet
a couple of years ago and was so put off I never went back)?
carl
response 19 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 22:43 UTC 1994

It's been a while since I've even looked at the news.  As I recall,
type "!rn" or "!trn", type a "g" then the name of the newsgroup,
then type "?" for help.  I know it's a one letter command to post
an item, but I'm not positive that it's "p".

If someone else has posted lately, please verify or correct this.
davel
response 20 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 05:18 UTC 1994

Re #17:  in fact, I *think* Meg used to be Fidonet.  I really don't know
anything about Fidonet.
rcurl
response 21 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 16:16 UTC 1994

I got to alt.internet.services, and tried to post my question (which
is apparently initiated with f), and was then told that I "obviously"
don't know what I'm doing (true), so go read g news.announce.newusers,
but there were no articles there to read. When I bobble at f, it also
told me that my message would go to thousands of machines worldwide,
and would cost hundreds to thousands of dollars to distribute. I was
properly intimidated, and retreated. Really friendly! What of this tripe
do I ignore, and how do I get past the snotty-nosed doorkeeper?

moose
response 22 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 16:44 UTC 1994

Yes...   If my memory serves me correctly Meg's first BBS was on her PC
(The name started with a "s, but I can't remember the word) and it was a
Fido Net.
kaplan
response 23 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 18:22 UTC 1994

You can get the news.announce.newusers messages via anonymous ftp from
someplace.  Perhaps I'll look for it and put in in /usr/local/inet.
Watch this space.
srw
response 24 of 33: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 18:23 UTC 1994

Re #21: 'f' is 'followup'. It's appropriate to use to respond to someone's
post, but not to start a new thread. As far as trying to intimidate you,
keep in mind that the program doesn't know who it's intimidating.
The fact of the matter is that you *do* want to send it to thousands of
machines Worldwide, you just go ahead and do it.

To start your own thread in a newsgroup, you need to run postnews, I
think. I haven't done it in so long that I really shouldn't be giving advice.
I'd recommend strongly reading any group you were going to post to for at
least a day or two, in order to be sure that your post is necessary and
appropriate. It's netiquette, but it's often ignored, too.

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