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bartlett
The telnet item Mark Unseen   Jan 10 04:30 UTC 1994

This is the telnet item.  Ask questions, let us know about interesting
telnet sites or whatever.
58 responses total.
bartlett
response 1 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 04:40 UTC 1994

For those who don't know, telnet is a program that allows users to log into
a system, then log into another system without leaving the first system.  In
order to use it, you must know the name of the target system (e.g
sils.umich.edu) or the numeric address e.g (141.211.203.31).
rcurl
response 2 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 06:06 UTC 1994

Do you not leave the first system? I thought it transferred the addressing.
davel
response 3 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 10:45 UTC 1994

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davel
response 4 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 10:48 UTC 1994

You're still logged in to the first system, where you've got telnet running,
after all!  What you're running is basically a (network-based) terminal
emulator.
rcurl
response 5 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 15:53 UTC 1994

You are correct. I logged onto caen from home via my Mac as a host,
with MacPPP, telnetted to MTS, and then back to caen. I was then signed
onto caen twice, and it retreated back through the links when I logged
off each. 

A little while ago I logged onto grex with Telnet, and was entering
this response, and tried to edit it when I was done with pico. I
did not get a clean pico window - in fact, it was a mess, and I had to
hang up to get out of it. Pico runs OK across telnet to other hosts
(caen, e.g.) - why not grex?
rcurl
response 6 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 07:10 UTC 1994

(The answer to my question in 5 is that I had used a "dumb" Telnet
terminal emulator, by accident. No vt100 - no pico.)

I would appreciate obtaining from anyone using NCSA Telnet 2.5.1B (or
thereabouts) over MacPPP to the MichNet NAS, a copy of their config.tel
file. I am trying to set up NCSA Telnet because Mosaic calls for that
when one attempts to open Gophers, but its config.tel file is in the
category of an obscure CLI (and the documentation is worse).
srw
response 7 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 16:16 UTC 1994

I uploaded into /u/srw/config.tel the one I use.
It is a modified version of the sample one that comes with Telnet.
As I recall the changes I made were trivial, but it was a while ago,
and my memory fades.
rcurl
response 8 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 22:18 UTC 1994

Thannks, Steve. I'll try it out. I was sent two, after I inquired
on MTS-Confer, but both fail to permit the use of pine on caen. vt100
is specified. There is config.tel and network configuration to worry
about, and I don't know what all the "fine print" means. Maybe by
comparing several, I can construct a workable beast (like, Dr. Frankenstein
did....;-<).
srw
response 9 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 01:42 UTC 1994

Well, I don't use pine so I have no experience with *that* using NCSA Telnet.
I can probably figure out what the lines of the sample config.tel mean,
if it's not clear to you, so ask.
rcurl
response 10 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 06:32 UTC 1994

NCSA Telnet is working for me - with the help of Steve and two others
that donated config.tel files. The problem with pine on caen was a
caen problem! I did have problems with all three sources because 
somewhere in my downloading/copying them, they wordwrapped, and that
tail on the next line became a command. Config.tel files are so full of
small print, it took me a while to find that. Finally I tried mightily
to include Local Echo enablement in the Settings file - but learned that
it is not possible. Now, to see if NCSA Telnet works with Mosaic for
Gophers.
srw
response 11 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 06:54 UTC 1994

Cool. I'm glad (and a little surprised) that I could help.
young
response 12 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 05:29 UTC 1994

How does one telnet into Grex?
scg
response 13 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 06:11 UTC 1994

Grex's domain name is grex.cyberspace.org, but it is only reachable from 
certain hosts.  You can get in from Merit if you have an authorization code,
but not otherwise.  There are also some other places you can get in from, but
I'm not sure what they are.
rcurl
response 14 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 08:07 UTC 1994

You'd be able to telnet in from any host from which you have Internet
access.
rcurl
response 15 of 58: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 15:21 UTC 1994

Speaking of which - the telnet link this morning off MichNet, is as
good as I've ever seen it. As fast as dialin. My thanks to all that
surmounted the difficulties.
remmers
response 16 of 58: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 17:03 UTC 1994

(Indeed.  It's now noon, and the link's still quite fast.)
rcurl
response 17 of 58: Mark Unseen   Apr 5 15:55 UTC 1994

NCSA Telnet 2.6 is now available. That config.tel file is no more: it is
now all menu/preferences driven. Hallelujah. It was easy to set up.
srw
response 18 of 58: Mark Unseen   Apr 5 18:29 UTC 1994

I'll have to get it. I've been using 2.5 on myMac at work very regularly.
Is there a release for other platforms (DOS Windows, OS/2 NT ? ) -
I assumed you were talking only about the Mac version, as I know you're
a Mac person like me. 
rcurl
response 19 of 58: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 06:21 UTC 1994

I only follow the mac archives, so I don't know what's available for
DOS or others. I do follow the mac and dos conferences on MTS, and
from them I realize that I do *not* want to struggle with DOS PPP,
if I have MacPPP running. Ver. 2.6 has also replaced the telpass
app with authentication/kerberos (yech!) preferences. I leave my office
Mac on so I can ftp to it, so have telpass running there: figuring
out how to use the new auth/kerb will be the only hurdle to installing
ver. 2.6 on my office machine.
srw
response 20 of 58: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 06:51 UTC 1994

Kerberos is basically a good thing, but I too will have to deal with that,
as I run it as an ftp server on My Mac at work too.
rcurl
response 21 of 58: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 19:19 UTC 1994

I have encountered a problem, when using NCSA Telent 2.6. It only occurs
when using the pine mailer. Ctrl-C (^C) does *not* cancel a message
that is being written - it seems to act like ^H (erase). This occurs
both here, and with pine on CAEN, so must be a Telnet 2.6 configuration
problem. In the Edit/Preferences/Sessions dialog, "Interrupt" is set to
 ^C. Otherwise, outside pine, ^C works as interrupt.
srw
response 22 of 58: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 02:12 UTC 1994

Hmm. I dunno. I still haven't upgraded from 2.5 - maybe someone else has?
hawkeye
response 23 of 58: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 15:02 UTC 1994

In "Setup Keys" in the "Session" menu, just blank out the "Ctrl-C" that's
already there.  This will, in fact, *enable* Ctrl-C correctly.  Why?  CAEN
told me once a long time ago, but I forgot the reason.  It works.
rcurl
response 24 of 58: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 15:10 UTC 1994

"The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the
fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science."
-Albert Einstein
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