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kaplan
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Welcome to the Internet conference
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Jan 2 22:16 UTC 1994 |
Why are we here? The Internet conference is for discussing the
worldwide computer network known as the Internet. Your fair-
witnesses would like to try to limit the discussion here to the
'net. Discussion of editors such as vi and emacs, mail programs
such as elm and pine, and newsreaders such as trn and rn should
remain the info conference.
What is the Internet? It is a network which links thousands of
hosts (computers) and millions of users all over the world. The
modern Internet (with a capital I) evolved from the US Defence
Department's Advance Research Project Agency's network (DARPA's
ARPAnet). It was created to allow non-classified information to
be shared among people in the government, the military,
commercial defence contractors, and educational institutions
conducting military research. Now, the Internet has grown to
include ordinary people like Grex members.
What does all this have to do with Grex? Grex has been linked to
the Internet indirectly for mail and Usenet news for a long time.
But now there is a more powerful and direct Internet link.
Some of the advantages of this improving link include or may soon
include:
faster and more reliable transport of mail and usenet news
ftp: File Transfer Protocol for exchanging files with remote sites
telnet: permitting interactive connections to remote sites
gopher: menu driven, easy access to public information
irc: Internet Relay Chat - worldwide verson of the party command
talk and finger: network implementations of existing commands
This is the place to talk about the services available out there
on the Internet and how we can take advantage of those services
from Grex. In addition to the discussion items, we intend to
create a repository for files that will help Grexers better
utilize the Internet resources. If you have files such as lists
of ftp or gopher sites, let us know and we'll make them availabe
to all.
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robh
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response 1 of 147:
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Jan 6 04:15 UTC 1994 |
Isn't it pre-emptive to talk about irc when we don't have access to
it yet?
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kaplan
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response 2 of 147:
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Jan 6 18:16 UTC 1994 |
No, IRC is an interesting thing to talk about. Although coop may be a
better place to decide if we should get access to IRC, internet
is the place to talk about what irc is, why people like it, how
people who've used it have recovered from their addiction to it,
how it works, and where grexers might go if they want to try it out.
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srw
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response 3 of 147:
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Jan 6 18:17 UTC 1994 |
Exactly so, Jeff. I'm listening attentively because I have no
familiarity with IRC.
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kaplan
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response 4 of 147:
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Jan 6 18:38 UTC 1994 |
ok, why don't I link in the irc item from agora? I've not used irc much
myself, and I don't know more about it than was said there.
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chavez
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response 5 of 147:
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Jan 6 22:57 UTC 1994 |
Ummm...has anyone heard of Hytelnet... it is an internet navigation Tsr...
i have it but it is not useful since i cannot access the internet. Is there a
way for me to upload it here so someone who nets will be able to utilize it...
btw.. from what i understand it is very good... useful too
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headdoc
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response 6 of 147:
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Jan 15 17:14 UTC 1994 |
Can someone please tell me how to do two things: 1)use internet to chat with
my daughter who logs in through the U of Washington CS dept., and 2)get certain
scientific information through Gohper. Thanks in advance.
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bartlett
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response 7 of 147:
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Jan 15 22:26 UTC 1994 |
To do the first, you will need to find a machine running IRC (internet relay
chat) a net-wide version of the talk program. Grex does not currently run
this software.
To use gopher, you need to telnet to a machine that runs a gopher server.
See the item on gopher for more details.
Chris
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remmers
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response 8 of 147:
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Jan 15 22:50 UTC 1994 |
Actually, the talk program that's currently on Grex can be used to chat
over the internet, if it's been configured for that. I'm not sure if
has been. You'd type "talk your-daughters-login@her-machine-name"
starting the command with a "!" if you do it from the "Ok:" prompt.
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carl
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response 9 of 147:
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Jan 16 03:28 UTC 1994 |
About the scientific information, you may want to check the World Wide Web.
If your term is set to emulate a vt100, just log in to the msu-gopher
from the Which Host? prompt. Login as "gopher" then select 13, 5, 13
and 10 from the following menus. After telnetting, login as "www" and
you'll be viewing the World Wide Web. There's a *lot* of stuff in
various scientific fields.
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rcurl
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response 10 of 147:
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Jan 16 07:05 UTC 1994 |
Item 5 is devoted to using Mosaic to suft the World Wide Web.
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bartlett
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response 11 of 147:
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Jan 17 19:32 UTC 1994 |
The command "talk sryan@sils.umich.edu" did not yield any error messages,
though it did not yield a talk connection either, so I don't know what this
means.
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moose
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response 12 of 147:
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Jan 22 17:48 UTC 1994 |
What it probably means is that the person you were trying to talk to didn't
talk back (Maybe that person was not logged in anywhere?).
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kaplan
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response 13 of 147:
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Mar 2 19:04 UTC 1994 |
I would like to announce that I read davel's suggestion, took another look
at item 2, concluded that all but two of the responses in item 2 were
useless, reposted those two responses in item 12, and retired item 2.
Feel free to point out other fw-related things that I've failed to do so far.
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remmers
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response 14 of 147:
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Mar 3 02:40 UTC 1994 |
You've failed to supply free doughnuts to the participants.
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omni
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response 15 of 147:
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Mar 3 05:13 UTC 1994 |
I prefer warm molasses cookies and blaque tea.
;)
,
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gwenm
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response 16 of 147:
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Mar 6 15:34 UTC 1994 |
what's "TSR" ?
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srw
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response 17 of 147:
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Mar 6 16:28 UTC 1994 |
TSR is one of those baffling TLA's ;-)
TLA = Three-letter-acronym.
TSR = Terminate and Stay Resident, a DOS-ism for a program that
loads when you boot your computer and wan't go away.
At least that's the only meaning I know for TSR. Perhaps there's another
intended by chavez in #5.
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gregc
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response 18 of 147:
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Mar 6 18:15 UTC 1994 |
Ah, you seem to be suffering from TOS. (TLA Overload Syndrome)
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srw
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response 19 of 147:
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Mar 6 19:13 UTC 1994 |
TDM TLA's
I quote from the Hacker's Jargon Dictionary (available on-line via WWW)
from the entry on TLA:
The self-effacing phrase "TDM TLA" (Too Damn Many...) is often used to
bemoan the plethora of TLAs in use. In 1989, a random of the
journalistic persuasion asked hacker Paul Boutin "What do you think
will be the biggest problem in computing in the 90s?" Paul's
straight-faced response: "There are only 17,000 three-letter
acronyms." (To be exact, there are 26^3 = 17,576.)
:-)
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davel
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response 20 of 147:
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Mar 6 23:03 UTC 1994 |
Transoft, Ltd. also uses TSR for Transoft Software Report or something like
that (bug reports etc.). This overloading is not much of a problem ...
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srw
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response 21 of 147:
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Mar 7 00:13 UTC 1994 |
Come to think of it, TSR is the trademark of that D&D company, too.
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davel
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response 22 of 147:
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Mar 8 11:37 UTC 1994 |
Thanks for the new header!
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cybrspce
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response 23 of 147:
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Apr 19 15:58 UTC 1994 |
FTP = File Transfer Protocol What is FSP??
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gibber
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response 24 of 147:
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Apr 24 16:23 UTC 1994 |
On Yanoffs ( I think) list there are great many ftp sites listed. How do I
access the[D [D[D[D [D[D[D[D [D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D
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