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keesan
ClothING - short questions Mark Unseen   Feb 23 04:30 UTC 1998

Short questions relatING to any aspect of clothING.
56 responses total.
keesan
response 1 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 04:34 UTC 1998

It seems like anywhere I go in Ann Arbor, 90% of the people are wearing black.
Are any other colors in fashion now, and if so, when and where are people
wearing them?
Why do women wear high heels?  Does it make them feel more feminine?
lee
response 2 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 20:29 UTC 1998

Hmm, black is supposed to absorb heat and it's winter...besides, it goes with
everything.  I'll leave the high heel questions for someone who does where
them.
keesan
response 3 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 03:25 UTC 1998

What heat?  The sun has hardly been out all winter.
lee
response 4 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 18:56 UTC 1998

<lee scrounges around for shades>
keesan
response 5 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 22:42 UTC 1998

My theory is that people wear black to be invisible, in the sense that black
or very dark clothing does not show shadows, so you can't see what shape
somebody is when they wear it (except for the general outline, and that does
not even show up against a black background, where you just see hands and head
sort of floating in space.).
        I am wondering why pants are sold with elastic and belt loops - if you
wear a belt, what good does the elastic do.  Same with sweatpants and strings.
rcurl
response 6 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 07:32 UTC 1998

The elastic gathers the excess in a chosen location, rather than in a lump
where you might not want it.
keesan
response 7 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 16:50 UTC 1998

To quote (from Land's End):  Guys, these Side-elastic Pants hide extra comfort
behind your belt.  Relax -- side elastic in the waistband allows extra give
for more comfort and flexibility.    How can you get extra give behind a belt?
Do you wear the belt loose?  If so, why wear a belt at all?
What is the difference between a sports coat and a blazer?  In the men's
models, the buttons look different, but the womens look the same for both.
rcurl
response 8 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 19:01 UTC 1998

I like a belt as it gives a more secure sense of retaining one's pants.
Men don't have broad hips to provide similar security. For equal security,
the elastic would have to be too tight. The elastic just keeps the pant
waste to fit: the belt provides a strong maximum on expansion of the
pant waste. 
scg
response 9 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 22:00 UTC 1998

Belts make it easier to carry things like pagers, which have belt clips.
keesan
response 10 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 22:23 UTC 1998

So why drawstring and elastic on sweatpants, which don't have the option of
belts for pagers?  The drawstring would already draw the pants together in
such a way as not to bunch.  I had a drawstring once that was attached to the
elastic so you could tighten the elastic, that made sense.
re #8, I also find that elastic waist pants fall down, but shorts don't, as
there is less material and weight to pull on them.  And I still don't
understand how you can have 'extra give' with a belt over the elastic.  Maybe
this is just a way to keep the pants fitting as a person gains or loses
weight, without bothering to alter the waistband.  A lot of what the catalogs
claim is not the real reason for things.  

Why do men's clothes come in regular and often in tall, whereas women's
clothes come in regular and sometimes in short and rarely in tall.  What are
short men and tall women supposed to wear.  (I suppose tall women can wear
a men's regular, but short men?)  
lee
response 11 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 19:40 UTC 1998

Belts are handy when your jeans are too loose.
As for wearing black, hmm, I was dressed in black when we last played
Capture The Flag...
keesan
response 12 of 56: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 00:00 UTC 1998

Have you tried Lee jeans?  They used to fit me best.
Why do tall men wear black, does it make them look shorter. (Senna....?). 
I am sorry to be so stupid, but how do you play Capture the Flag?
lee
response 13 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 00:00 UTC 1998

It's more that I wear my clothes into the ground; there are things more than
ten years old that I still wear, and I've lost weight since I bought most of
my jeans, and haven't had the time (or money) to get new ones yet.

Capture The Flag: Two teams, each with a flag (or any piece of cloth you can
find) Each team hides flag.  Object is to find other teams flag.  The tricky
parts: Game is played outside in pitch nighttime darkness.  You can be
captured by the other team and brought to jail.  There are guards at the jail
to prevent you from escaping.  I think that's all the main points.  Anybody
got anything to add?  Wearing black helps you hide in the night.
scott
response 14 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 00:04 UTC 1998

More fun in a forest, even better with ravines.

This is the basic game play used in paintball.

(what is paintball, asks keesan?  Paintball is a game like Capture the Flag,
only each player is equipped with safety goggles and a special gun that shoots
paint pellets.  You get shot, you are "dead" and have to wait for the next
game.)
keesan
response 15 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 03:07 UTC 1998

I used to play a game called Fox and Hounds, in which we split into two teams,
and every time a fox caught a hound, the hound became a fox, and chased the
other hounds, until they were all caught.  I forget who won.  I learned it
in Brooklyn NY, where we played it in the warren of cellars under my
grandfather's apartment building.  Anyone else remember it?  Maybe children's
games are regional.  What else is played (or was played) around here?
        I actually heard of paintball, I knew someone who played.
orinoco
response 16 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 04:40 UTC 1998

I played a great game of capture the flag last year in a gravel pit, with
hills and ravines and the whole bit.  Great fun!
keesan
response 17 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 22:11 UTC 1998

Is capture the flag not a children's game?
scott
response 18 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 23:14 UTC 1998

Depends on terrain and viciousness, of course.  It's a great teenager game.
lee
response 19 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 20:52 UTC 1998

I wouldn't mind playing some Capture the Flag now, although I think the last
time I played was at fourteen.
scg
response 20 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 21:37 UTC 1998

I haven't played Capture the Flag in years.
keesan
response 21 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 22:34 UTC 1998

What other games do kids play around Ann Arbor?  I mean the outdoor type with
teams, other than organized sports.
orinoco
response 22 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 03:29 UTC 1998

<dan contemplates a grex capture-the-flad tournament, but decides against it>
keesan
response 23 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 18:18 UTC 1998

Maybe kids don't play any outdoor games anymore?  We used to play hide and
seek, cat and mouse, dodge ball, rattlesnake, various things with jump-ropes
and balls and rhymes, versions of pattycake for older kids....
lee
response 24 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 19:45 UTC 1998

<lee wonders how you could play capture the flag on grex, unless orinoco means
a real live tournament, which excludes those who don't live in ann arbor>

I think kids these days spend too much time in front of the t.v. playing video
games and the like.  Or cmoputer games.  They need to get outside more.  I
need to get outside more <mutters about excessively difficult homework>
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