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Grex > Hippie > #80: Newbie Grexer looking for a Clue about this Conference | |
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lee
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Newbie Grexer looking for a Clue about this Conference
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Dec 30 17:49 UTC 1996 |
Okay, I'm new here (if that wasn't completely obvious) Most conferences around
here I've found seem to have this item 1 where it describes the conference
and such, well I'm not finding one here, so maybe someone could clue me in
to what goes on in this conference and such?
Btw, what is the definition of a hippie? Do you have to be in a certain age
range and if so, what *is* that age range?
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mta
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response 1 of 35:
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Dec 31 07:18 UTC 1996 |
I think we never really defined the purpose of the hippie conference, Lee.
And the definition of a hippie is a good question. It's not an age thing,
it's a mindset.
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lee
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response 2 of 35:
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Jan 1 22:36 UTC 1997 |
So what is the mindset of the hippie? Somebody out there must consider
themselves a hippie... maybe they can share some of those details with the
rest of us clueless people about what a hippie's mindset is.
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mta
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response 3 of 35:
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Jan 1 23:39 UTC 1997 |
Well, I'm a tiny bit young to be absolutely sure (the high point of hippie
culture was just coming to an end as I became sentient) but I think some of
the key points are:
Hippies are both personally and politically liberal.
Hippies have a simple, "natural" aesthetic.
Hippies have, in general, opted out of the culture of conspicuous
consumption.
Hippies are concerned with humans' relationship with the earth.
Hippies believe in the ideal of universal love and respect for all
beings.
Hippies, in general, believe that people should be judged not on
appearances but on what's in their hearts.
Having said all this, hippies are people and as such don't meet all of these
ideals.
Anyone got a better informed definition??
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hokshila
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response 4 of 35:
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Jan 7 13:08 UTC 1997 |
Hippies are cool, man, and well, just enjoy the day!
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lee
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response 5 of 35:
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Jan 25 02:57 UTC 1997 |
When was the high point of hippie culture?
What exactly was the meaning of all those beads that people used to
wear?
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mta
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response 6 of 35:
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Jan 26 23:42 UTC 1997 |
The "high point of hippe culture? MMaybe around 1964 sometime...
The beads were, I think, an "everyman" fashion statement -- beads are fairly
inexpensive and so anyone could afford 'em. (Hippies also borrowed a great
deal from native american culture, and the beads looked sort of like the glass
beads associated with wampum. Mostly, though, it was just one of those
fashion things that the media made much of -- "guys? Wearing necklaces??
You have got to be kidding!"
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lee
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response 7 of 35:
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Jan 27 00:14 UTC 1997 |
1964? Whoa, before my time. No wonder I never understood the
hippie culture. I like beads. It's just in some old shows,
people will say something like, "Those beads are far out, man"
and I won't see what's so significat about said beans...
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bruin
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response 8 of 35:
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Jan 27 00:18 UTC 1997 |
RE #6 & #7 actually, the hippie counterculture was most prevalent between 1966
and 1970-71.
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lee
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response 9 of 35:
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Jan 27 20:30 UTC 1997 |
So what exactly consisted of the hippie counterculture? What did
people do, in addition to what they believed in that was
mentioned earlier (ok, I'm sick, I'm hoping the grammar here
isn't uncomprehendable)
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mta
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response 10 of 35:
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Jan 29 15:44 UTC 1997 |
Actually "Hippie" was buried in 1967, so anything that came after was not
truly hippie but part of the media circus that came after. y 1970 the real
hippies had gone on to other things the media and the mainstream didn't
understand. All that was left were the day trippers and the fashion victims.
The "Hey man, cool beads" remark was generally made to men and the reason for
it i\ was that the idea of men adorning themselves "like women" was pretty
revolutionary. Remember, before hippises men's adornment was pretty limited
and maybe even kind of boring.
Please excuse the typos -- the lag is getting to me.
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lee
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response 11 of 35:
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Jan 29 22:33 UTC 1997 |
<lee wonders if men wore any type of jewelry before the 1960's, including but
not limited to wedding bands>
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mta
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response 12 of 35:
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Feb 6 00:41 UTC 1997 |
Pretty much not. Adornment (beyond a conservative wedding band) was all but
unknown for men in EuroAmerican culture for most of the last two centuries.
Before that, of course, there were periods when men wore far more adornment
than women.
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lee
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response 13 of 35:
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Feb 6 01:00 UTC 1997 |
<Moondance wonders how that whole change took place, where men went from
wearing more jewelry than women to none at all, until the hippe age>
Where did the expression "far out" come from?
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mta
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response 14 of 35:
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Feb 6 04:41 UTC 1997 |
I'm not sure where the swing from gobs of jewelry to none happened exactly
-- but I suspect it was probably gradual. Probably it was just a normal swing
of fashion. (Hah, like anything about fashion is ever "normal". ;>)
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lee
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response 15 of 35:
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Feb 6 23:14 UTC 1997 |
So what was it like living in the "hippie era"?
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mta
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response 16 of 35:
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Feb 7 03:36 UTC 1997 |
I'm not really sure except from reading. I was born very late in the era
and what little I "lived through" my parents carefully protected me from.
Until the mid eighties I thought the hippie era was something that happened
around the same time was the world wars. My husband has been feeding me
facts.
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lee
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response 17 of 35:
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Feb 7 22:12 UTC 1997 |
<Moondance wonders if you can recommend any books that will describe said
"hippie era">
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mta
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response 18 of 35:
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Feb 9 01:20 UTC 1997 |
Well, Abbie Hoffmans' Dancing in the Ice Age or Steal this Book are pretty
interesting reading. I'll check with Larry for other titles.
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omni
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response 19 of 35:
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Dec 27 23:45 UTC 1997 |
I just had a cool thought.
Misti's definition of a hippie:
Hippies are both personally and politically liberal.
Hippies have a simple, "natural" aesthetic.
Hippies have, in general, opted out of the culture of conspicuous
consumption.
Hippies are concerned with humans' relationship with the earth.
Hippies believe in the ideal of universal love and respect for all
beings.
Hippies, in general, believe that people should be judged not on
appearances but on what's in their hearts.
Sound like anyone you know? Perhaps the first hippie was Jesus.
Give that some thought!
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mta
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response 20 of 35:
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Jan 9 00:35 UTC 1998 |
I've been suggesting that on and off for 30 years, Jim. ;)
(My father was far from impressed.)
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cmcgee
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response 21 of 35:
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May 8 14:27 UTC 2004 |
Hey hippies!
Since I'm on somewhat more frequently than Misti, and since the co-fw has left
the system, I'm volunteering to be a co-fw here. Any support or objections?
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mary
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response 22 of 35:
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May 8 14:43 UTC 2004 |
I support your fairwitnessship.
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glenda
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response 23 of 35:
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May 8 16:17 UTC 2004 |
I second that support.
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keesan
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response 24 of 35:
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May 8 20:57 UTC 2004 |
Third
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