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Data Loggers Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:14 UTC 1997

Hardware and software for data logging with computers.
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rcurl
response 1 of 14: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:24 UTC 1997

I would like to log voltage over a period of ca. a day be means of
my computer. What is available, or what can I build, for doing this -
with a Mac, in particular. (I am looking in _Nuts and Volts_ at 
an advert for the "LPT:Analog!", a PC printer port A/D adapter, which
is built into a DB-25 connector, which looks like what I want, except it is
only PC compatible.)
n8nxf
response 2 of 14: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 22:20 UTC 1997

That's why I also have PCs.  There is a lot you can do with the parallel
port on those things.  It's also easy to write Basic routines on a PC.
The only thing I know of for the Mac is something made by National
Instruments.  Very expensive, as I recall.
 
In all honesty, this sounds like a good task for your XT.
scott
response 3 of 14: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 02:09 UTC 1997

You could try using the voltage to control the amplitude of an audio signal,
then feed that into a sound card...

I was looking at a new Jameco catalog at work today.  They had a nice
selection of stuff, probably all PC based.
arthurp
response 4 of 14: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 05:06 UTC 1997

The sound card idea is cool.  
rcurl
response 5 of 14: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 08:00 UTC 1997

....back to the XT....amazing. But, I don't think I can get a sound card for
the XT.... Klaus, do you know of any other A/D like the LPT:Analog!, even
a kit? I'd think there'd be a chip that would do all this, and some
free/share-ware to run it. I've also thought that it should be easy to include
a parallel interface in a multimeter, but I haven't seen one offered.
n8nxf
response 6 of 14: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 15:18 UTC 1997

Yes, you can get a sound card in an XT.  At least an 8 bit unit...  Don't
try it thoug.  The input to a sound card is AC coupled and it won't see
a DC voltage, or low freq. AC.
 
Scott had a good suggestion with Jameco.  They have several kits, one of
which may well meet your application.  As I recall, they also had several
digital multimeters with serial ports.  I think Radio Shack also sells a
multimeter with a serial port.  Both should run with your XT and may come
with the required software.  I don't have the Jameco catalog with me today,
though I placed and order with them yesterday...  Perhaps scott, etc. has
their phone No. handy.
rcurl
response 7 of 14: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 18:01 UTC 1997

Yes, RS's "top" (and top $$) multimeter does have a PC interface (though
it doesn't take power from it for long term use). Actually, I wouldn't mind
having it - could use a multitester for C and L, at times. I'll check out
Jameco - probably they have a web site. Is there a "Stamp" application for
A/D conversion? I don't have the list.
n8nxf
response 8 of 14: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 19:19 UTC 1997

I think you could do it with a "stamp" too.  I have wanted to fool with
one of those things, but have not yet found the time or a project
important enough to justify the time ;-)
rcurl
response 9 of 14: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 22:25 UTC 1997

Well, here it is - an A/D interface to a Mac for you and me..  8^}
Jameco is on the web - in fact, their catalog is on the web. They have
meters with PC interfaces at about the RS cost. Did not see anything
more elementary, although there is a "microprocessor A/D chip" at a
reasonable chip-type price. MIght be the basis for...something...
gull
response 10 of 14: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 06:43 UTC 1997

You can get an 8-bit A/D interface for a PC for under $20.
They're sold as 'joystick ports.'

rcurl
response 11 of 14: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 07:04 UTC 1997

Any instructions on how to adapt that for data logging? I vaguely recall
seeing such written up (maybe in _Nuts and Volts_) but have no references
to it. That's the sort of thing I'd like to find. I suppose I could write
a BASIC program to do the logging (gosh, I used to know how to do that!).
Hmmm...  probably something out there on the web, under home automation,
for those that record temperature, light intensity, etc. 

gull
response 12 of 14: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 03:00 UTC 1997

I think the biggest trick would be inputting the signal to the card -- it
expects to be measuring the resistance of the joystick's pots.  The cards
generally have four channels, X and Y for two joysticks; plus four on/off
switch inputs.  Most programming languages, including BASIC, can access a
joystick card one way or another.  I have a joystick port pinout somewhere
if you need it, I'd have to dig it up, tho.

rtgreen
response 13 of 14: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 23:02 UTC 1998

The PC joystick interface measures the time it takes to discharge a
known capacitor through the resistance of the joystick pot.  It's not
straightforward to condition a voltage to look like a resistance. 
Easier to go the other way...
  Do you have an old Commodore VIC-20 or C-64 laying around?  The
built-in joystick port on those machines is a real 8-bit a/d measuring
0-5v directly.  A simple voltage divider can adapt it to higher
voltages, and the port is easily read by the builtin BASIC interpreter.
arthurp
response 14 of 14: Mark Unseen   Apr 15 04:48 UTC 1998

Hmm.  I'm interrested in the same kinds of use of the joystick port.  It
has so be on a PC, though.  Any further developments?
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