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alan
Power supply compatability Mark Unseen   Feb 11 12:24 UTC 1997

Will an xt compatible run a 486 board. Ie: are the voltages the same even
though the wires are differeent colors.
29 responses total.
n8nxf
response 1 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 15:44 UTC 1997

Yes.  It should work.  I'm doing exactly that with the 486 board I got
from you.  It's in an XT case with 130W supply, 200M HD, 5 1/4" floppy,
3.5" floppy, CD ROM, 16 bit Sound Blaster, etc.  No problems.
alan
response 2 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 13:53 UTC 1997

Very cool.I'm glad that is working out for you.
arthurp
response 3 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 08:23 UTC 1997

My Leading Edge XT uses a different connector for power.  :(  Only one board
going in that case I guess.  
n8nxf
response 4 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 13:25 UTC 1997

Wack the connector off the end of a dead power supply and splice it onto
the wacked end of your LE XT supply ;-)
arthurp
response 5 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 05:04 UTC 1997

Well, the XT also has a dead serial port on it that I can't seem to dissable.
Anyone have the setup utility for the Leading Edge XT with extended video
bios?  I have most of a simple 486 system to play with now, so the LE doesn't
draw much of my attention.
alan
response 6 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 11:25 UTC 1997

I may have the rest of the 486 system that I would be interested in getting
rid of, what are you missing?
arthurp
response 7 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 04:39 UTC 1997

Right now I'm missing a floppy, and any kind of fixed disk.  Depending on what
happens I may have a 200 conner to migrate into it.
gull
response 8 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 06:41 UTC 1997

As I remember, Leading Edge XTs didn't have a 'setup utility', just DIP
switches.  If you want the switch settings, tell me and I'll see if I
forgot to sell the manual along with that machine I used to have.
arthurp
response 9 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 17:57 UTC 1997

There was a setup utility that I got into, but I have since lost it.
I could do strange things like mess with the interlacing of the display.
There were other usual settings, too.  I have a feeling that the util
needs to be run under certain versions of DOS, and I've been messing
with it in that respect.
gull
response 10 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 02:52 UTC 1997

Any idea what BIOS it has?  On some machines with Phoenix BIOS's, you hit
Ctrl-Alt-C to get into the setup utility.  I worked on a Leading Edge
386SX/15 that was that way.

arthurp
response 11 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 04:48 UTC 1997

Phoenix 8088 ROM BIOS Ver 2.13
Copyright 1984, 1985
[ctrl]-[alt]-c doesn't seem to work.  I'm pretty sure I ran a program to get
in, but the only thing that looks anything like it might be it complains of
wrong version of dos or something similar.  Now I can't even find the program.
davel
response 12 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 12:05 UTC 1997

Try ctl-alt-esc, ctl-alt-backspace, etc., too.  But you probably need a
program.
alan
response 13 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 14:21 UTC 1997

try starting up with the keyboard/mouse unplugged. Or  change something else
that the system will detect as an inconsistency with bios settings. Remove
the battery but you would want to be sure you know how to reinstall the hard
drive, etc.
davel
response 14 of 29: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 15:06 UTC 1997

If he can't get to setup mode I don't think he wants to try killing his cmos
settings by removing the battery.
alan
response 15 of 29: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 12:14 UTC 1997

I'm under the impression that, unless this is like a ps2 which does require
a special disk, the cmos will ask to be reset. Not true here?
tsty
response 16 of 29: Mark Unseen   Mar 11 10:25 UTC 1997

and another soetimes-it-works trick is to reboot with ctrl-alt-INSERT
and see what happens. this is after the machine is already on.
rcurl
response 17 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 06:27 UTC 1999

(This is as good an item as any for this...)

I need a power supply that provides 3 volts at ca. 1 A. I read that a
317T regulator will allow adjustment of its output from 1.2 to 27 volts
with a 40 volt source, but the book doesn't say at how low an input
voltage the regulator will work to yield 3 volts (regulated). I would
*think* it would only need the usual couple of volts required by 
similar regulators, but I don't know that for sure. What's the case?
n8nxf
response 18 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 11:29 UTC 1999

The spec. is 40 v maximum output to input differential.  The operating
curves indicate a 2 v operating differential with 1 A of current draw
at 25 C to 150 C.  (Don't run it that hot!)  2.5 volts of headroom
should be all you need unless you want to hug the 2 volt line to minimize
inefficacy.
rcurl
response 19 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 16:20 UTC 1999

THanks, Klaus. The application is to run a tiny 3-V motor. I would think a
filtering capacitor is needed on the input, but wonder if one is needed on
the output. The book also mentions bypassing the adjustment terminal to
reduce ripple. Do you know how that is done?

n8nxf
response 20 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 16:47 UTC 1999

It depends on your power source.  Batteries are basically large capacitors.
I'd put a 10 uf electrolytic right on the output terminals and a .1 uf
across the input.  Don't worry about bypassing the adjustment terminal.
I doubt you would notice the difference running a motor.  Beside, if you
do that you also have to add a diode to protect the regulator should Vout
drop below ADJ.  Another good way to blow a regulator is to have Vout
greater than Vin.  If your application might motor the motor causing it to
become a generator, it would be a good idea to put a normally back biased
diode from Vin to Vout.
rcurl
response 21 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 17:33 UTC 1999

I was going to install the diode. My power source will be a 6.3V x-former
into a bridge rectifier (because I have the parts) so I plan on putting
a big cap on the input. The motor will have inertia, so will produce a
back emf to the regulator if the AC power is cut. 

(While I have your attention - do you have any suggestion on line filters
for motors, which I asked about in another item, to keep the startup
hash off the line? Type? Size?)
n8nxf
response 22 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 12:28 UTC 1999

Put a .1 uf ceramic across the wires to the motor and a .1 from each wire
to the motor case.  Do this as close as possible to the motor.  You can
put a back EMF diode across the motor at this point while you are at it.
If you ever look inside a cassette player, you will see that this what they
do, often inside the motor. (Many of the motors also have built in mechanical
or electronic speed regulators.)
rcurl
response 23 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 17:01 UTC 1999

Uh...I think I've introduced confusion between a) and b). a) is the
tiny 3V "toy" motor, which is not a noise problem. b) is a furnace blower
motor that is somehow introducing "hash" into the telephone lines on
startup. The questions re a) have been resolved. Putting 0.1s on b)
can short out carrier-current controls, so I'd prefer a line filter
(which has inductance on the line side). b) is what my second question
in #21 was about. 
n8nxf
response 24 of 29: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 10:37 UTC 1999

I have nothing of note to say about problem b).  Perhaps the phone
wires and furnace power wires are running close together. Could be
that the phone wires aren't a twisted pair and therefore the noise
is not common mode.  Might be some device plugged into the phone
line and the power line that is coupling one to the other.  Possibly
even the modem.  The noise may even not be getting in through the
phone line but through the power line.
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