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brighn
Introduction Mark Unseen   Oct 31 18:30 UTC 1996

Hello and welcome to the conference.  As is standard, this item (#1) is the
introduction item.  Say hi, introduce yourself, and such.  This conference
is for open-minded discussion of issues relevant to the gay/lesbian/bi
community, as well as the transsexual/gender/vestite community.  Everybody
is welcome to post, but we're not here to bash or flame, and if you don't want
me to queen at you, you'll behave yourself.  *curtsey*  Hmmmm...that's all
that comes to mind right now, but I might add stuff later.  Void, anything
to add?
406 responses total.
void
response 1 of 406: Mark Unseen   Oct 31 19:09 UTC 1996

   i think you pretty much said it all, brighn. ;)

   i'm void. i'm a lesbian, and i've been out for almost 14 years. i live in
the ann arbor/ypsi area and drive a cab for a living. i'm also an ordained
pagan minister and something of a shade-tree mechanic, and i have other
interests too numerous to name.

   welcome to the conference, everybody!
brighn
response 2 of 406: Mark Unseen   Oct 31 22:47 UTC 1996

i'm brighn, i'm bisexual (male), and i've been out for about two years. i live
in the lansing area right now, but hopefully not long... i'm an ordained pagan
minister too, gee. =}

something i did forget:  while Grex doesn't have an anonymous function, one
way to get around this is to generate a handle that you use only for this
conference, if you wish to be anonymous (that is to say, run !newuser again,
leave all the personal information blank, and don't tell anyone you don't
trust who you are).

i do encourage people to post under their "regular" handles, but some people
might not wish to do so, thus, my suggestion... 
remmers
response 3 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 1 11:02 UTC 1996

I'm John Remmers, straight, a professor of computer science at
EMU, with side interests in music (I play classical and ragtime
piano) and, of course, computer conferencing, which (although
it may seem otherwise at times) I believe has great potential
for correcting stereotypes and breaking down destructive social
barriers. 

Case in point: I used to be something of a homophobe until
I started reading the gay conference on M-Net years ago and
thanks to the enlightened and enlightening conversations there
became, uh, straighted out on the issue. Everyone was welcome
at the monthly Gay Conference Get Get-Togethers, and I met a
lot of neat people and made some new friends by attending
those.

Here's hoping that Grex's GLB conference can be the same kind
of constructive social force in the 1990's (and beyond) that
M-Net's Gay Conference was in the 1980's.
bruin
response 4 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 2 14:46 UTC 1996

My name is Bruin the Bare Bear.  I am 45 years old, and although I am involved
in a monogamous, heterosexual relationship, I am extremely gay/lesbian/bi
friendly.  In fact, many of my best friends are lesbians.

Good luck with this conference, y'all!
ladyevil
response 5 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 22:45 UTC 1996

Hello. I'm Selena Anne Barwens. I've been bisexual all my sexual life, but
my first fem/fem experience came (literaly *chuckle*) at 14.
arianna
response 6 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 23:08 UTC 1996

Greetings, I'm Erinn Streeter. (;  The smilie points out that I'm a leftie
(which can be interesting in a sexual situation *giggle*), and other
notablepoints about me are that I'm a voice major at Interlochen Arts Academy
(aka: the Insane Artists' Asylum), I like good books and interesting
conversation, and many of my friends are bi/gay (as one is prome to have when
working in a field where gayness is rampant (; ).  
jenna
response 7 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 02:18 UTC 1996

I'm Jenna... ;} I go to a school where straight
men are hardto find (and that's high school), but
anyway, well, I don't feel like going into it. ;}
blondval
response 8 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 03:25 UTC 1996

My name is Valerie Hartzer, i'm thirty married to Brighn right now but i'm
deffinately bi and have been all my life or at least i had sexual feeling s
for my berst female friend whe we were eitght or nine and selpt together
during sleep overs at her house but the feelings never seemed reciprocated
so i never pushed. As far as i know i've been bi ever since I just never
really labeled myself until a few years ago.
faile
response 9 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 03:02 UTC 1996

Hallo.  My name is Jessica Moore (Most people call me Jess or Jessi).  I
graduate from IAA, where Erinn is, in June and now I am at teh conservitave
haven of the South, Vanderbilt Univ.  (I'm in the school of music, and I know
one guy who is out.  *(sigh*)  I'm a double bass player, and my other
interests are wild and varied.  I have quite a few g/l/b friends... and...
yeah....(I've run out of things to say, really...)
nsiddall
response 10 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 21:20 UTC 1996

Void, your combination of interests is always highly amusing.  Pagan
minister and auto mechanic, eh?  Springs to mind:  A Booth cartoon, with
the grubby and slighly insane-appearing mechanice telling the customer,
"We think there is an evil spirit in your carburetor."

Hi, everyone.  No one really cares what my sexual preferences are, do they?
kerouac
response 11 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 21:49 UTC 1996

I'm Richard, 33, straight, devotee of beat poetry, politics, and pints of
Guiness Stout.  I take my login name from Jack Kerouac, the most famous of
beat poets.  Kerouac always admitted that he owed much of his eventual
success and the creation of his style to the influence of two gay men who
were his best friends:  AllenGinsberg and William S. Burroughs.  Kerouac
was a homophobe in his youth but learned that there is something wrong
with a soceity that says it is wrong to show your feelings or be attracted
to half of the human race.   This sort of thinking leads to so many people
being in denial of their feelings.  Sex is really a small part of any
relationship anyway, its about relating to and loving another person.
Kerouac's best known work, "On the Road" was specifically about his
platonic attraction to a real-life life bi-sexual friend of his named Neal
Cassady.   Kerouac was writing of a time in his life when he met Cassady
and finalylearned to open up and experience and share.  It is no
conicidence that the book starts after his divorce from his first wife,
details his travels with Cassady, and ends with him d finally going back
to New York and finally finding the desire within to get into another
relationship.  The implication being that opening yourself up and
experiencing are the only ways to prove yourself capable of loving.  

Doors shouldnt be closed and people shouldnt be afraid to express
themselves or admit attractions to any human being.   I know several gay
couples and some of them are more well-adjusted marriages than most
straight married people that I know.   In fact  am friends with one gay
couple that are not only two men, but is also bi-racial (one black, one
white), yet ifyou saw them you'd see they are the most normal people you'd
ever want to meet.  Its plainly obvious that they should be together.
I dont know of two people more meant to be together than them.  
I think if more people could witness the normal healthy gay relationships
that go on, and not simply base their views on stereotypes, the world
would be a better place.
kewy
response 12 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 01:40 UTC 1996

i'm katy, i go to huron high school in ann arbor (btw, it's hell), i'm 
straight, and like a lot of people i have a lot of gay/lesbian/bi friends.
the issues of "gay rights" and such have interested me since middle school,
i was always the one sticking up for people when someone would say "that's
gay, this is gay, he's gay," etc etc etc...  I dunno, it's just kind of beyond
me why some people think that they should treat people badly because of their
sexual preference..
birdlady
response 13 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 20:13 UTC 1996

Hello hello hello!  My name is Sarah O'Connor, I'm a sophomore/junior in
college, and I'm still not sure.  =)  Right now, I'd say I'm "straight but
open".  Amanda says I just haven't found the right female yet.  <laughing>
Anyways, I have a *ton* of gay/les/bi friends and believe that gay marriages
should be allowed.  Clinton lost my vote over that issue.  I hate
stereotypes of any kind, which leads to my open mind.

I'm glad to see there is finally a cf devoted to this!
<birdy says a silent prayer to keep the hateful away>
mta
response 14 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 05:18 UTC 1996

Hi!  I'm Misti Tucker.  I'm bi and have been out for just short of
20 years.  I'm married (in a monogamous hetero relationship) to
a fellow bisexual.

remmers
response 15 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 19:58 UTC 1996

(Well, if it's a hetero relationship, then I guess he *must* be
a fellow...)
mta
response 16 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 01:14 UTC 1996

<laugh> Good point, John.
brighn
response 17 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 05:08 UTC 1996

i once got a grant that properly should have gone to another man
it was a fellow fellow's fellow
*Wanders off*
katie
response 18 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 03:05 UTC 1996

I am Katie. I am straight, and I have many gay friends, of both genders.
My best friend is a gay fellow, and we are fairly inseparable. We confuse
people, I guess, as we do seem to be joined at the hip. We spend most of
our free time together, vacation together, and all. We have matching tee
shirts that say "We're Not Dating," which we have fun with. Last Valentines
Day we went out for a nice romantic dinner, wearing our shirts, and our
waitress asked us, tentatively, "So..are you guys...like...dating?" "Oh,
no!" exclaims David, "We're not dating!" "So, are those shirts just for
Valentines Day?" "Oh, no," says David, "We've felt this way for quite
some time."

I used to host two MNet GCGTs every year, then they sort of fell by the
wayside.
hairywlf
response 19 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 21:40 UTC 1996

I feel sheepish...I suggseted they start this thing and then I go and don't
check it out for two months...I'm 17, and not yet sure of my sexual
preference...
birdlady
response 20 of 406: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 16:40 UTC 1996

How cute...  A wolf feeling sheepish.  ;-)
<birdy grins and munches on a worm>
hairywlf
response 21 of 406: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 20:56 UTC 1996

Wolves have feelings too you know BIRDY...maybe I'll munch on you...
lee
response 22 of 406: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 04:02 UTC 1996

re #18 <grins>
birdlady
response 23 of 406: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 19:10 UTC 1996

Silly boy -- it was a pun referring to a wolf in sheep's clothing.  
Never mind.  =)  Go ahead and munch...I need to lose weight.
hairywlf
response 24 of 406: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 01:37 UTC 1996

I'm sorry...I didn't mean to get you all huffy...
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